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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Her IQ is MOST DEFINITELY NOT in the 120-130 range, HELL NO!!!



    She is terrifyingly STEWPID.

    Her IQ range: 95-105, and that very well may be an overestimation.
    That range is not stupid, but average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iluvstellacat View Post
    I'm sure she thinks she can win over the world with a well placed wink.
    Charisma is far more likely to win an election than intellect or ability, sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    That range is not stupid, but average.
    True.

    Gah, and you quoted my post prior to my editing it!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    There are always exceptions. I'll take an intellectual over an idiot 99% of the time.
    I think your percentage is an overestimation (especially when it comes to intellectuals in government), but OK.


    Yeah, but that was what people were saying about Dubya back in 2000. I think those "intellectuals" are what pure_mercury is talking about.
    Bush = not an intellectual, but higher-than-average IQ. Likely higher than, say, Reagan's. Reagan had some intellectual aspects about him (big reader and prolific writer), but the estimates of his IQ are not much higher than average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Her IQ is MOST DEFINITELY NOT in the 120-130 range, HELL NO!!!



    She is terrifyingly STEWPID.

    Her IQ range: 95-105, and that very well may be an overestimation.
    I find that HIGHLY improbable.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Bush = not an intellectual, but higher-than-average IQ. Likely higher than, say, Reagan's. Reagan had some intellectual aspects about him (big reader and prolific writer), but the estimates of his IQ are not much higher than average.
    Agreed. Dubya's wake is filled with corpses of those that "misunderestimated" him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Of course, but you don't read too many snide remarks about McCain, Obama, or Biden being stupid or hickish, do you? Also, intelligence is not the only important asset to have as a leader. Look at some of our most brainiac presidents: Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Woodrow Wilson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton. Wide range of beliefs and "success" at the highest level.
    I think my problem with Palin is that she doesn't seem to use her intelligence in evaluating and processing new situations, so as to determine a "best answer" that is suited to the situation.

    Instead, she seems to come into a situation with her answers predetermined and uses her intelligence merely to figure out a way to implement her goals.

    (Mostly a Te sort of thing, driven by Fi-style values).

    That bothers me a lot. I know some other people are far less bothered by it... at least, if their values align with hers.

    I agree that raw intelligence is not the most important factor in someone's success as president, due to the nature of the office. Many other qualities as well as one's level of experience and background come into play in regards to working through whatever problems arise. I tend to vote based on who I think will be the most effective leader and has the right qualities to apply to any (un)expected situation that could arise.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Her IQ is MOST DEFINITELY NOT in the 120-130 range, HELL NO!!!
    She is terrifyingly STEWPID.
    Her IQ range: 95-105, and that very well may be an overestimation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    ...Dubya's wake is filled with corpses of those that "misunderestimated" him.
    I know, I know.

    Sigh. Boy, that personally rankles me.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if she was in the 120-130 range. But that's as much as I'll give her.
    That's pretty high. Even Feynman only had 120 IQ.
    I could be wrong. Like I said, certainly not HIGHER.
    However, she seems to be very effective at Te style implementation of her goals. She's got some smarts. She just lacks a lot of N.

    I could be wrong. She might only be average. I don't think she's BELOW average.
    What's Dubya again? 125, tested? More than average and probably surprising to some people.
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    I'm still annoyed that Sarah Palin was thrown out there to attract the vote from the ladies- there's a lot more impressive and deserving women out there who would have made a better selection for the token slot that she has fallen into! :steam:

    I'm not so sure that I even want some bitch, who made women pay for thier own rape kits as mayor, to be in my gender!

    I'd go for Tina Fey in Palin's place ANY day

    (and no, I don't think she's the brightest bulb out there- I think this is a good case of being in the right place at the right time and knowing all the right people...)
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    I'd like to know just what you guys are basing your intelligence judgements on. Exactly what has she done (be specific) that you think makes her stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I'd like to know just what you guys are basing your intelligence judgements on. Exactly what has she done (be specific) that you think makes her stupid?
    her answers in uncoached interviews and the obvious way that she steered debate questions into the questions that SHE wanted to answer shows a certain lack of finesse and linguistic skills that one would expect from a person with a higher intelligence...
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