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    Of course Obama is going to face an international crisis. That's because EVERYTHING IS SHIT right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    Of course Obama is going to face an international crisis. That's because EVERYTHING IS SHIT right now.
    And Biden says Obama wont be making it any better. It's interesting how most of the media tried to ignore this like many of the Obama supporters here, but it's been breaking headlines today. Mccain and Palin certainly agree with my assesment of Biden's hair brained decision to say what he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    And Biden says Obama wont be making it any better. It's interesting how most of the media tried to ignore this like many of the Obama supporters here, but it's been breaking headlines today. Mccain and Palin certainly agree with my assesment of Biden's hair brained decision to say what he did.
    From what I've seen of it, he didn't imply that at all. It sounds like he's just asking people not to turn on Obama.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    From what I've seen of it, he didn't imply that at all. It sounds like he's just asking people not to turn on Obama.
    See, even the anti-socialist can READ and COMPREHEND.



    (lol, I don't mean at all what that implies. SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE LIBERTARIANS ... and all of them are smarter than me...)
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    The way I see it, expectations are going to be EXTREMELY high for Obama. In the first crisis he faces, chances are good that he won't live up to the everyone's expectations. Some people expect the guy to walk on water. I see Biden's comments as an attempt to change some peoples' perspective.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    The way I see it, expectations are going to be EXTREMELY high for Obama. In the first crisis he faces, chances are good that he won't live up to the everyone's expectations. Some people expect the guy to walk on water. I see Biden's comments as an attempt to change some peoples' perspective.
    One thing Obama has going for him is that the economy is bound to turn around sometime, and he can always take credit for it if it happens by the next presidential election. Look at Bill Clinton. The majority of what he did was not screw things up too bad and the economy was tremendous (after the Republicans took Congress and, more importantly, the tech boom shot productivity through the roof). People worshiped him for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    EVERYTHING IS SHIT right now.
    OHHH NOES!!! :eek:

    I liked Hilary's line about trusting the republicans to fix the economy was like letting the bulls in the china shop. I was like "HELL YEAH! Let me in that china shop, I will DESTROY THAT MOTHERF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    OHHH NOES!!! :eek:

    I liked Hilary's line about trusting the republicans to fix the economy was like letting the bulls in the china shop. I was like "HELL YEAH! Let me in that china shop, I will DESTROY THAT MOTHERF
    I smell insurance fraud...
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    Nice video I found-

    YouTube - Biden - Obama to be tested in first 6 months - McCain reacts

    You have to hear Biden's entire speech to get the full context of it. I'll try to find it again. Biden is really saying that we will face problems with Obama because of Obama's election if his wording at all indicates what he means. I personally don't want to face a "generated crisis" if its avoidable by simply voting in someone the world will take seriously.

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    Our standing in the world will improve if Barack Obama is president of the United States.
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