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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I had forgotten he stayed at the farm, kuranes. I need to reread that! I think I was in 8th or 9th grade when I read it before, and I enjoyed it a lot.
    It was a great read, wasn't it ? The sequel "The Walk West" not quite as good, but I loved the part about the Colorado community up in the mountains.
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    Have you read The Eden Express by Mark Vonnegut? That also has some interesting stuff about him and a few of his friends living together communally. Of course, he went crazy... but it probably had nothing to do with the commune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Have you read The Eden Express by Mark Vonnegut? That also has some interesting stuff about him and a few of his friends living together communally. Of course, he went crazy... but it probably had nothing to do with the commune.
    No. Haven't read that one.

    But I did read these two books by children of famous counter-culture authors - and there might have even been some talk of communes in them....
    William S. Burroughs, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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    I toyed with the idea of joining one back in the day, even visited one.

    But there are too many rules and they attract too many wackos.

    I still might consider co-housing though. It's prolific up here in the pacific northwest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Well, they can't really be compared to tribal life because the people in these communes didn't grow up together. They're strangers. There's no emotional investment in the other people in the commune. And they know they could just leave if they wanted, so what's to keep someone from taking advantage of others? The risk vs reward ratio is much lower than it was back in tribal days.
    Yeah, this is the stuff that Poriferan was talking about. The pure commune idea is not applicable in this world. You need a big group of people who are willing to leave the world behind. I don't want to live in that kind of atmosphere But, the "people living together" can basically work well. There are many reasons (for me) why it is better than living alone

    - Feeling of community / having people around you (it just feels good )
    - It's a lot cheaper in a big city (not just the rent, but cooking together etc)
    - Lot's of space to do stuff

    The reasons for not living this way would be:

    - Not willing to wash dishes right after eating
    - Hating people / wanting peace and quiet all the time
    - Independence / not wanting to trust people

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