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    Quote Originally Posted by IlyaK1986 View Post
    An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

    Two eyes for one eye means that you might take out one of mine, but I'll leave you blind.

    I'm not proposing retaliation in kind. I'm proposing setting a message once and for all that:

    "You are rational. Therefore, you will not attack us for fear of putting all of your people to death. If you attack us, you and your entire nation get burned off the planet. Be rational, live in peace, and we won't harm you. Fuck with us, and die."

    The threat of force is a far better weapon than the use of it. But in order for the threat of it to work, we must show that we are willing to use it.

    It is interesting to see your hypocritic stance on this subject, which is communicated repeatedly in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    The world isn't dying.

    Would you care to explain why it isn't dying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    Would you care to explain why it isn't dying?
    Would you care to explain why it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Capitalism is not the cause. All humans have the ability to steal, regardless of their ideology. What you are doing is like blaming guns for murders, instead of the murders. But I'm sure you do that too.
    Capitalism is based on greed. This is not completely bad thing, because it basically makes it possible for capitalism to self-regulate. But, we have seen lately just how well pure self-regulation works now, haven't we? I think there should be some set of rules inside capitalism that are a bit like human rights regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    Capitalism is based on greed. This is not completely bad thing, because it basically makes it possible for capitalism to self-regulate. But, we have seen lately just how well pure self-regulation works now, haven't we? I think there should be some set of rules inside capitalism that are a bit like human rights regulations.
    You're confusing an economic system with a governance system. One ensures trade, the other ensures fair play... or that's the way it's supposed to work.

    In practice, it often works out that one ensures as much theft as can be got away with, and the other makes sure that the thieves in authority get their fair share.

    You can't devise a system that humans cannot figure out how to abuse.

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    If the world leaders can cooperate (during next few years) enough to make capitalism rise again, I'm sure they could also make it fair (because the cooperation means a set of rules for capitalism). It won't be fair, though. Any such move would be a political suicide.

    The problem is both with democracy and capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    If the world leaders can cooperate (during next few years) enough to make capitalism rise again, I'm sure they could also make it fair (because the cooperation means a set of rules for capitalism). It won't be fair, though. Any such move would be a political suicide.

    The problem is both with democracy and capitalism.
    Whereas under socialist or communist systems, everything is fair and equitable?

    The alternative to democracy in its various forms is an autocratic authority structure. The alternative to capitalism is, likewise, an autocratic command economy. Forgive me for pointing this out, but experiments with these ideas over the past hundred years or so haven't worked out so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    If the world leaders can cooperate (during next few years) enough to make capitalism rise again, I'm sure they could also make it fair (because the cooperation means a set of rules for capitalism). It won't be fair, though. Any such move would be a political suicide.

    The problem is both with democracy and capitalism.
    And if cats could bark, they'd be more like dogs.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    And if cats could bark, they'd be more like dogs.
    Or would they find new ways to be different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Whereas under socialist or communist systems, everything is fair and equitable?

    The alternative to democracy in its various forms is an autocratic authority structure. The alternative to capitalism is, likewise, an autocratic command economy. Forgive me for pointing this out, but experiments with these ideas over the past hundred years or so haven't worked out so well.
    No, I said earlier that I am for democracy and I am also for capitalism, but I think they need some tweaking. I started a new thread, since we are way out of topic here.

    http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...tml#post352632

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