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    Default Most Influential person of the last 1000 years?

    I was watching a show on the History Channel today 'The 100 most influential people of the last Millenium'.

    It was made for the build up to the Millenium -- put on a little late I know -- anyway the top ten were in order.

    10. Galileo Galilei.
    9. Nicholas Copernicus.
    8. Albert Einstien.
    7. Karl Marx.
    6. Christopher Columbus.
    5. William Shakespare.
    4. Charles Darwin.
    3. Martin Luther.
    2. Issac Newton.
    1. Johann Gutenburg.

    So I guess I'll open the floor, who do you think was the most influential person of the last Millenium?

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    Whoever shot Archduke Ferdinand.
    There is no such thing as separation from God.

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    Let me type them

    Galileo-INTP
    Copernicus-INTP
    Einstein-INTP
    Marx-INTP
    Columbus-ENTP
    Shakespeare-INFP
    Charles Darwin-INTP
    Martin Luther-?
    Isaac Newton-INTP
    Gutenburg-?

    As we can see, INTPs can indeed influence society profoundly indirectly, more so even posthumously.
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    Jesus Christ.

    [EDIT] And no, I'm not suggesting him as an influential person of the past millenium, I'm just saying... [/EDIT]
    There is no such thing as separation from God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Whoever shot Archduke Ferdinand.
    Gavrilo Princip.

    I think one could certainly make a convincing argument for him being the most influential person of the 20th century -- certainly one of the most influential, although a massive world conflict was inevitable I think.

    But of the whole millenium i'm not to sure about that. Why do you think this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Whoever shot Archduke Ferdinand.
    You mean Apis, the Bee? Dimitrijevich did not shoot anybody. It was he who was ordered to be shot. The Bee knew too much.
    He ordered assassinations and walked free. Sure, he ordered the assassination of Ferdinand as well.

    Was Austria implicated in the murder? A provocation that went wrong, initiated by the police in Vienna?

    Is it not a little ironic that the eminent historians abandoned the theory
    on grounds that the local Bosnian authorities were ignored when preparations for the visit to Sarajevo were made in Vienna. Little the historians know of police work.

    Or do you mean Gavrilo, the ill-starred loser?

    Gavrilo never had a job. His family owned a miserable four acres.
    He was never seen in his school in Belgrade. He dabbled in poetry and sat in cafes.
    There The Black Hand found him. A man who would recruit his own kind.

    Nedelko hit the wrong car.
    Cvetko Popvich could not see.
    Danilo Ilic had no gun.
    Cabrinovich jumped into the canal.

    Ferdinand was not exactly loved by Beppo or Karl. To say nothing of the police.

    It was not the intention to kill him though. Only to fire a few shots.
    And then arrest. And arrest and arrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    Let me type them

    Galileo-INTP
    Copernicus-INTP
    Einstein-INTP
    Marx-INTP
    Columbus-ENTP
    Shakespeare-INFP
    Charles Darwin-INTP
    Martin Luther-?
    Isaac Newton-INTP
    Gutenburg-?

    As we can see, INTPs can indeed influence society profoundly indirectly, more so even posthumously.
    Do you think all influential scientists and philosophers were INTPs? I have seen you type these people before, and you seem to base it upon their thoughts, which you always think are INTP, and not the personality of the thinker. I think at least Newton was INTJ. Keirsey seem to think so too: The Scientific Revolution

    Let me quote: "Issac Newton was a reasonable man as long as he didn't have to suffer fools. This attitude made him appear as both an arrogant man and a humble man at the same time. This is not surprising, for he is one of the iconic examples of the personality temperament, called Rational, in particular a Mastermind. Masterminds are not concerned with ideas, for their own sake, as much as the Architects, but rather are interested in ideas for their use and utility in reality. And Newton had no use for useless or wrong ideas, and for those people who could not see what was obvious to him. However, Newton saw far -- farther than anybody else in his age."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Jesus Christ.

    [EDIT] And no, I'm not suggesting him as an influential person of the past millenium, I'm just saying... [/EDIT]
    I like how martin luther and gutenberg were 'unknown', maybe he couldn't find their test results online or he only knows them as distant acquaintances.
    I don't wanna!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Jesus Christ.
    I thought John Lennon was bigger than Jesus.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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    What does it mean, influential person?
    Influential in what sense.
    ?

    Is influence but beneficience?
    The generous, the kind, the benevolent, the princely.. only they have influence?

    History or semantics does not matter?

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