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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Yes of course that too, but they're not mutually exclusive. In order to search for truth and knowledge, you often have to have discourse with people of differing perspectives in order to help achieve that end.
    Yeah, I was just making a jibe at the whole postmodern "discourse is everything" idea. Not that that's what you believe, but I felt like being a smartass .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Yeah, I was just making a jibe at the whole postmodern "discourse is everything" idea. Not that that's what you believe, but I felt like being a smartass .
    LOl touche

    Although my sense of Postmodernism is different than the standard version familiar to most people; which in my view actually amounts to more Hypermodernism than true Postmodernism. For one thing, I'm a devout Catholic - so of course I believe in the concept of truth.

    A parallel exists division exists in regards to the atheistic/secularist Existentialism of Sartre and the theistic Existentialism of Kierkegaard, Buber, Marcel, Tillich, etc.

    This should give you a good introduction:
    Postmodern Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Truth is determined by the merits of its arguments, not by what time of day it is.
    I think it might be more productive to argue about what time of day it is, then to engage in this particular debate.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    I think it might be more productive to argue about what time of day it is, then to engage in this particular debate.
    Then don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    I confess, I can't be bothered to read most of this thread because grey guy's arguments are too passe to take seriously.

    But, I'm interested in what the women think of this:

    "When she loved a man again, she would return to normal: a woman that is, whose sexuality would ebb and flow in response to his. A woman's sexuality is, so to speak, contained by a man, if he is a real man: she is, in a sense, put to sleep by him, she does not think about sex." - The Golden Notebook

    True or false?

    And why was Lessing considered a feminist?
    Never did get an answer to this.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Never did get an answer to this.....
    And you probably won't. I haven't read Lessing, so I can't speak to that, but the basic block of libertarian feminism ("conservative feminism" is obviously different) is that women should have the same life options available to them that men do. However, it also demands that A) women do not receive special protection above, beyond, or beside what men receive; and B) women who take on so-called "traditional" gender roles not be harassed or looked down upon by other women (or men, for that matter). In other words, men and women should be free to determine their own paths in life, without special privileges or social approbation.
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    Did you read the quote?

    Knew I should have started a new thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Did you read the quote?

    Knew I should have started a new thread...
    Isn't that from a novel? I don't know if that should be taken seriously in a debate on feminism.
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    Conservative women give up alot of ass to few if but only one partner. Lybral women give up small portions of ass to vast amounts of partners=women give up alot of ass no matter what. So in return, as a group of women and men, shouln't we have an equal amount of collegiate schollarships for women?
    everyone uses every function about evenly. take NE for example. if there are those who don't use it much, then why are there such massive amounts of people constantly flowing through Wallmart with 20 items or less?

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    Jeez. What part of "I'm interested in women's opinions" was unclear?
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