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    Default Why I think so called seperatism could be a good idea

    I think that white, or whatever other single identity monism people are cracked up about for that matter, could actually be a great idea, it means I'm not liable to ever have those variety of people as a neighbour if they are voluntarily dissociating themselves from everyone else, also, in the grand scheme of things I actually do agree with the idea as to whether or not its a sort of test of the utility of ideas in the "greater scheme of things", if they're ideas are all they say they are then we'll see who is thriving down the line and who is not.

    I actually think it'd be a great idea for some liberal creedos or campaigns too, in some cases it has already happened when clubs or venues are dedicated to a single identity, if even just for a single night.

    The biggest reason I have for thinking this is that I think the real division may be between people who care about whatever it is enough to choose only to associate with like minded people and those who just dont feel that way, ie everyone else pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post

    The biggest reason I have for thinking this is that I think the real division may be between people who care about whatever it is enough to choose only to associate with like minded people and those who just dont feel that way, ie everyone else pretty much.
    I disagree. If someone believes that they have the right ideas, the only course of action that makes sense to me is for them to spread their ideas to other people, rather than staying with a community of "like-minded" people. That's one of the top things that I found off-putting about radicals on the left, but I suppose it applies to a broader subset of people than self-identified socialists and anarchists (probably a bunch of 4s, lol). To me it suggests fear, probably the fear that ideas will crumble in the face of outside scrutiny, and that the belief system faces threats in the form of extrernal influences. It hardly inspires confidence in ideas.

    But I suppose, for that same reason, it might be a good idea if white supremacists practice that, since it is something that happens to be counterproductive.
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    The important thing is consistency. We either all have the right to free association or none of us do. If a baker is forced to do business with someone (Court Rules Bakery Illegally Discriminated Against Gay Couple - ACLU - Colorado), then companies should also be forced to do business with white supremacists (World's oldest neo-Nazi website Stormfront shut down). Otherwise, we're making some people more equal than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Admiral Crunch View Post
    The important thing is consistency. We either all have the right to free association or none of us do. If a baker is forced to do business with someone (Court Rules Bakery Illegally Discriminated Against Gay Couple - ACLU - Colorado), then companies should also be forced to do business with white supremacists (World's oldest neo-Nazi website Stormfront shut down). Otherwise, we're making some people more equal than others.
    Are you talking about equality or sameness/uniformity? Is being consistent just being uniform? If uniformity is such a great idea then what about diversity?

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