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    I thought universal health care was supposed to make sure incidents like these never took place. This stuff only happens in the US.

    Man's death in Winnipeg ER 'preventable': chief medical examiner
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    Maybe the conservative PM Steve Harper isn't putting enough money towards health care? Or maybe health care cuts.

    Universal health care + Conservative leadership don't mix.

    This wouldn't happen if there were more doctors/nurses/hospitals...

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    How much is enough?
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    Well, considering the inefficiency of government, which is by its very nature not profit-driven and lacks incentive to become efficient, I'd say a 90% universal tax rate (perhaps more for the super-rich) should cover our health care expenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Well, considering the inefficiency of government....blah blah..
    NASA? NSA? CIA?

    You don't become the first nation to the moon with inefficiency. We can do that, we can provide health care lol.

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    I don't think any of those are very efficient. Lots of waste, correct?

    Any idea how much money was spent on Mercury/Gemini/Apollo? I don't know, but I bet it was a F'n tidy sum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    How much is enough?
    I like the progressive taxation system of places like Denmark and Norway. Maybe even more taxes for the high earners, but it should be done gradually so we can see how it works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I don't think any of those are very efficient. Lots of waste, correct?

    Any idea how much money was spent on Mercury/Gemini/Apollo? I don't know, but I bet it was a F'n tidy sum.
    Any large organization will have lots of waste. But no one else is going to go to the moon, give health care to people with no money (besides charities), gather intelligence on China... unless the government does it, because there is no profit incentive.

    I mean, would you ever scrape NASA or the CIA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Any large organization will have lots of waste. But no one else is going to go to the moon, give health care to people with no money (besides charities), gather intelligence on China... unless the government does it, because there is no profit incentive.

    I mean, would you ever scrape NASA or the CIA?
    The CIA should probably remain government for obvious reasons.

    NASA? I don't know. I like the idea of government sponsored private work. Mars missions (and beyond) might be too much for private industry to handle.

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