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    ....gee, maybe he just wants to make sure that he is well-informed enough for an extremely important vote, and doing so precludes the typical amount of preparation necessary for political debates. :rolli:

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowtech redneck View Post
    ....gee, maybe he just wants to make sure that he is well-informed enough for an extremely important vote, and doing so precludes the typical amount of preparation necessary for political debates. :rolli:
    Doesn't matter what his campaigns honest reason is. This makes him look like a wuss whose afraid to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Doesn't matter what his campaigns honest reason is. This makes him look like a wuss whose afraid to debate.
    Not to everyone, though. There are those out there that think that this is a sign of patriotism: he's putting the needs of his nation before the needs of his own political ambitions. And that's hardly a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyo View Post
    Not to everyone, though. There are those out there that think that this is a sign of patriotism: he's putting the needs of his nation before the needs of his own political ambitions. And that's hardly a bad thing.
    Will that be the prevailing perception? Probably not, his side had good spin doctors, but not that good.

    And remember, it's only idiot undecided voters that matter right now, their perception is very limited. Only simple concepts like "back out of debate = wuss" translate to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Doesn't matter what his campaigns honest reason is. This makes him look like a wuss whose afraid to debate.
    No, the people who don't like McCain will bitch. The people like McCain will praise him. The rest don't really care.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Will that be the prevailing perception? Probably not, his side had good spin doctors, but not that good.

    And remember, it's only idiot undecided voters that matter right now, their perception is very limited. Only simple concepts like "back out of debate = wuss" translate to them.
    I'm watching CNN right now, and the call ins and emails on the subject seems to be 50/50 split, just like everything else about this election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Udog View Post
    However, I now see that McCain wants to replace the VP debate next week with the presidential debate scheduled this week.
    Yeah, I think they're delaying the moment Palin has to engage in any lengthy dialogue requiring a lot of knowledge of what led to the status quo, or crucial details besides scripted or generic material.
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyo View Post
    I'm watching CNN right now, and the call ins and emails on the subject seems to be 50/50 split, just like everything else about this election.
    Those people making the call-ins and emails aren't the same people as the undecided voters, there mind is already made up. For the most case, the people who haven't made up their mind are the same people who aren't exactly involved with politics and current events.

    So whatever the prevailing perception is, that is what will most likely influence them the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    No, the people who don't like McCain will bitch. The people like McCain will praise him. The rest don't really care.
    The people that will still vote don't not care. They won't hear about all these mini-issues and squabbles, but they are still effected by public perception and current political events.

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    i don't get it.

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