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    Quote Originally Posted by raincrow007 View Post
    I liked The Moon and Sixpence.

    Well, as much as I like anything, I suppose.
    Yeah, I liked it, too. That was his best novel. Actually Willie was a short story writer. Very sarcastic.

    Gaugie Strickland was quite a chap, eh? You should have met his wife Mette. She was a good housewife. How on earth those two ever got married? Life is full of mysteries.
    You like Viking sagas I am sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Yeah, I liked it, too. That was his best novel. Actually Willie was a short story writer. Very sarcastic.

    Gaugie Strickland was quite a chap, eh? You should have met his wife Mette. She was a good housewife. How on earth those two ever got married? Life is full of mysteries.
    You like Viking sagas I am sure
    I am a Viking saga.

    Hey! Where are the Vikings in your Out of Africa Series? Oh, and what about this too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raincrow007 View Post
    I am a Viking saga.

    Hey! Where are the Vikings in your Out of Africa Series? Oh, and what about this too?
    How true! And you are my favourite Viking saga.

    I was about to start with the Vikings. Alas Langrenus and Uberfuhrer did not vote.
    So I started with a chronological order. Those women who carried or were to carry the mtdna haplotype M were the first to leave Africa.

    But the Vikings are the descandants of those of the mtdna haplotype N.

    The Red Indians are the descendants of the both groups.

    Unfortunately I was delayed because of the problem with the Siberian Kets and their relationship with the American Indians, the Na Dana speakers.
    There is a linguistic affinity, recently found. However no common mtdna haplotype basis nor genetic patrilinear affinity. This is supposed to be a big surprise.

    Ironically this is a parallel with the argument about the possible genetic link or the absence of it between the Neanderthalers and the Cro Magnon.
    Nor maternal or paternal common link is found.

    So what? It has no significance in a case like this.
    Some of the esteemed geneticists forget that fathers have also daughters and mothers as well have sons.

    And the supposition that their descendants are alive today surely is more plausible than the ridiculous idea that a never ending paternal or maternal line should constitute somekind of a norm in the existing humans.

    Thanks 007. Now I have an excuse to skip the muddle of the Bering Strait.

    Vikings, here we come!

    African mtdna haplotype L3 > haplotype N

    https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/...tml?card=mm009

    http://humpreygenealogy.com/

    If your name is not Humprey I cannot help you. Sorry.
    Nah, I was kidding.

    The Viking mt DNA project:

    The Scandinavian mtDNA Project - Family Project Website

    The primary mtdna hg mutations of the Viking ancestors

    N>R>preHV>HV>H

    They were the daughters of Helena which means that from the side of the mother at least, the ancestors of the Vikings were not the original people of Scandinavia after the Ice Age. They were the daughters and wives of the disciples of the Megalithic religion, the worship of the Sun God. They arrived in Scandinavia via the British Isles. They had arrived in the North under the spell of a missionary fervour. They wanted to spread the good news. The worship of Aton.

    The religion had originated in Egypt but was not accepted by the ruling elite before the reign of the Pharaoh Akhnaton in the 14th Century B.C.

    https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/...tml?card=mm015

    The Slovenians are an interesting people in this context. Any of you folks have forefathers in Slovenia? Or Croatia? Or Corsa? Venice? Rhaetia? Trieste?

    Etruscans, Veneti and Slovenians

    The Red Sea Connection.

    https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/...ml?card=mm.022

    If it does not work choose go back: genetic markers: preHV

    The Iberian refuge: The direct consequence of the building of the ice caps.

    https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/...tml?card=mm023

    The sinking of the temperature drives people to find shelter. Hence the Iberian, the Balkan and the Ukranian refuge. Three new languages of the type of Lingua Franca emerge in the three melting pots.
    Proto-Basque, Proto-Indo-European and Proto-Finnic, respectively.

    Possible Language Shifts in the Uralic Language Group

    Ha ha! The Yakuts may be partly of European heritage. We have to see about that.
    If so, they are not the only ones in Asia.
    Think of the Tocharians.

    Topographically, their ancient trail leads us to examine the Uighurs.

    The Uighurs Y-hg-R1b?

    Logical. The Tocharians were Proto-Celtic. Just examine the language.

    Y-hg-R1 Indo-European?

    You do not find the hg-R1b much in the Balkan. Not surprising.

    Satem was the original vernacular?
    The linguists always thought it was vice versa. What do they know.

    The Kentum was the shift and parallelled the mutation of Y-hg-R1b?

    the b variant resides in the West of Europe. Of course.

    Family Tree DNA Forum - The Proto-Indo-Europeans and Y-Haplogroup R

    By consequence and necessity, a tiny discourse in the land of Kem is handy.

    Http://www.palmyria.co.uk/superstition/akhenaten.htm

    The astronomers refound Aton recently.
    The Sun Disk.
    They have another name for it of course.
    What is it?

    Egypt: Gods - The Great Aten, The God and Disk of the Sun

    Afro-Asiatic languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Haplogroup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Ancestor 1

    Frances Burke Roche

    http://artroots.com/art3/morganweistling3.jpg

    Her maternal grandmother was Ruthie Littlejohn whose maternal grandmother was Katherine Forbes.

    Katie was half Armenian.
    Her father was a sea captain who one day sailed off to India.

    What was to be his cargo when he came on shore in Bombay?
    Armenian carpets?

    The Armenian trader, Kevorkian, had a daughter, Eliza.
    The mother of Katherine.

    Russia

    http://www.belygorod.ru/img2/Russkie..._Fedorovni.jpg

    Not enough?
    You wanta feel elevated, eh?

    Listen to Elgar Nos 1-5 opus 39

    http://www.joyceimages.com/images/EdwardLovesAlex.JPG

    Germans against Germans.
    The swansong of the family of Saxe Coburg Gotha.
    Hence the rebirth of Windsor.

    The test of loyalty.

    http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/...exandra_01.jpg

    The ultimate betrayal.

    Of a cousin? Come on.

    There are cousins and cousins. Nicky and George shared the same X.
    A carrier of genes.

    I have a brother. We do not share the X.

    What else did Nicky and George share besides the X?

    Something that is contritutable to the common X.

    What is it?

    King George V

    Nikita Sergeyevich made an official visit to London in the middle of the 50s.

    In his memoirs he does not tell much of the trip.

    During the negotiations he was troubled by a picture on the wall.

    Finally he asked: Why do you have the picture of Nicholas II on your wall?

    Image:Tsar Nicholas II & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    dressed up to intimidate the cousin in law

    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Image:Tsar Nicholas II & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    dressed up to intimidate the cousin in law
    It is a sad picture. And why is it sad?
    I often wonder.
    They did not start the Serbian conflict. Nor did they do anything to hinder it from spreading.

    Those boys wanted to be heroes.

    Now is the time to bid goodby to George and Nicky.
    It is a tender moment, I know. I am also sorry.

    George did not have a hand in bridge but he had the best stamp collection in Europe.
    Nicky was a family man and he had a hand in a sail boat.

    It is a time to move on and have a close look at their cousin in law.

    The cripple.

    http://olesnica.nienaltowski.net/Hoh...0II%20Foto.jpg

    http://www.firstworldwar.com/photos/...nand_fam01.jpg

    Victoria& - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Vicky

    Die Englanderin

    Victoria of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The mother of Vicky

    http://images.pearsoned-ema.com/jpeg...0582245594.jpg

    The son of Vicky.

    The Cripple.

    http://www.annesdoor.com/Foto/Hitler.jpg
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    Hmmm...these latest photos suggest that you favor my idea to turn Africa into a nuclear playground! Splendid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Hmmm...these latest photos suggest that you favor my idea to turn Africa into a nuclear playground! Splendid!
    Knupper, knapper, kneischen
    wer knuppert an meinem Hauschen?

    Bring Mein Kampf und Willy's Memoirs back to the attic where you "borrowed" them and let them gather dust.

    google
    Border Reiver Deep Ancestry

    the truth about the "aryan" nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Knupper, knapper, kneischen
    wer knuppert an meinem Hauschen?

    Bring Mein Kampf und Willy's Memoirs back to the attic where you "borrowed" them and let them gather dust.

    google
    Border Reiver Deep Ancestry

    the truth about the "aryan" nonsense
    Of course, "Aryan" is just a word.

    But there are clearly cultures that are more advanced...and a great percentage of them inhabit Eurasia. Even Arthur Schopenhauer, Immanuel Kant, and David Hume said so! And Artie especially gave a completely logical explanation:

    "The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmans, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature and out of it all came their high civilization." (Parerga and Paralipomena, Volume II, Section 92)

    Oh yes, much like dogs and cats, the human race comes in breeds -- and some breeds are smarter than others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Of course, "Aryan" is just a word.

    But there are clearly cultures that are more advanced...and a great percentage of them inhabit Eurasia. Even Arthur Schopenhauer, Immanuel Kant, and David Hume said so! And Artie especially gave a completely logical explanation:

    "The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmans, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature and out of it all came their high civilization." (Parerga and Paralipomena, Volume II, Section 92)

    Oh yes, much like dogs and cats, the human race comes in breeds -- and some breeds are smarter than others...
    The Hindus destroyed Mohenjo Daro, a much more advanced culture. The Aryans destroyed Elam, the advanced sister culture of Daro.
    The South Sea islands were ruled by the happy Polynesians before the white man came along, bringing about ravages and tuberculosis on their wake. The European food destroyed their teeth.
    Finally, their environment was destroyed by the atom bombs.

    In Africa the Arabs, a white people, in their search for slaves met a more advanced culture.
    Their slave trade is going on as never before in Africa. After the war they have expanded the trade into South Asia.

    http://journeytoforever.org/farm_lib...ice/Fig.33.jpg

    http://www.lakesidegalleries.com/Renoir,India,Egypt.jpg

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    Hmmm...if the Mohenjo Daro was so advanced, then why was it destroyed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Hmmm...if the Mohenjo Daro was so advanced, then why was it destroyed?
    It was a sad story

    Atomic Bomb Destroyed City 4,000 Years Ago

    That was the Uberfuhrer kind of an answer. Ha! A good joke eh?

    And now to the Vikings

    Family Tree DNA Forum - Viking Long Boat Burial / DNA

    https://www.familytreedna.com/forum/...6&page=6&pp=10

    For a year or two I used to watch to the morning news in Castilian. The piece was well done. A 90 minutes thing. I liked the anchor.
    I especially liked her speech. She replaced almost every Spanish consonant with the Castilian dental fricative.
    Where else they have the th? All along the western coast. From Iberia to Bjarmaland.

    Haplogroup I1b2

    Family Tree DNA Forum - Connection between Scandinavians, Basques, etc.

    http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fmc661546a.jpg

    what's up, boys?

    Haplogroup R1a1 & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Ruthenian/Viking male haplotype Y-R1a1

    The Kurgan boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Haplogroup R1a1 & - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Ruthenian/Viking male haplotype Y-R1a1

    The Kurgan boys.
    What do you know about the Rus, hmm?

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