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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    I will make a general statement that suffering and burdens are not to be avoided, but to be overcome. First of all, it's a losing battle to try to avoid them and second of all I think that overcoming burdens and suffering is what makes life the most meaningful. It's easier to say than do, but it's still true.
    Who are you to dictate how others view suffering, though? Whatever your opinion is based on, anybody could simply disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    So let's say someone has a baby and by the third month they develop a disease that will lead to nothing but pain and hardship.
    Is making the killing of that baby murder putting an undue hardship on the family?
    Even if it was the value of human life outweighs that anyway.
    But, I truly believe everyone has a choice and that society isn't doing anything bad to these people. They can choose to accept what has happened and seek to overcome it or they can let the suffering overwhelm them. The same will happen for the child. If the child doesn't reach an age of agency I still think their life has inherent value and that they can contribute positively to society under any circumstances.
    I do not believe life has any inherent value. I also believe you will have a hard time finding arguments to support such a claim knowing that your usual god-made-it-so stance is very unconvincing.

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    Shooting infants isn't legal. By the way, I'm against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Shooting infants isn't legal. By the way, I'm against it.
    This.

    Psychopathy is a mental disease that appears to be contagious.

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