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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't know, I've seen some guys apply that reasoning to themselves. In an odd way, it can be liberating. It removes accountability.
    It's quite baffling to me, and I've seen it happen across the political spectrum. The language is different, but underneath it all is the same old-fashioned set of beliefs about the animalistic urges of men, and paternalism towards women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't know, I've seen some guys apply that reasoning to themselves. In an odd way, it can be liberating. It removes accountability.
    Actually, I was thinking about that as I was typing my last post. Embracing that label would conveniently absolve one from all accountability. I'm sure some lowlifes find that idea appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't know, I've seen some guys apply that reasoning to themselves. In an odd way, it can be liberating. It removes accountability.
    Lessons from history: Religious texts saying "Thou should not covet thy neighbour's wife" or variants of, and rather than taking heed and employing a little self discipline, the men go "fuck this, we can't be bothered, let's just make the women cover up instead."

    Sadly, I can't bash religion here, only a culture of laziness on behalf of the men.

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    I got in trouble last summer for the work dress code... I wore a tank top to work. there were a lot of men wearing tank tops and I was doing one of the more physically demanding jobs there and was pondering death by heat exhaustion on a daily basis, so I wore a tank top in. Nobody had told us that we couldn't, after all

    I showed no obvious cleavage and my bra was completely covered by the tank top, but I was sent home for wearing something "distracting" to work... I pointed out that several male coworkers were wearing tank tops as well but was told that they posed no distraction
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    Actually, I was thinking about that as I was typing my last post. Embracing that label would conveniently absolve one from all accountability. I'm sure some lowlifes find that idea appealing.
    But I don't think it's a very uncommon idea.

    When I was spending my completely unnecessary assignment at the PA Corrections Academy, I remembered overhearing these guys who were there for the long haul to become actual corrections officers. They were talking about this one CO who acted as an instructor there who was, for lack of better words, really hot. And she was shapely to the extent that it showed right through her corrections uniform. So I hear these guys talking about how hot she is, I hear them admit to basically staring right at her tits without thinking about whether or not she's looking at them, and wondering if they can get in trouble for that. Then this one guy makes the classic remark; I'm a man, I can't be expected to not do that, I mean come on, am I right?

    I think, basically, that the narrative of men and women having these natural and profound psychological differences is a very familiar one. It sits at the top of peoples' minds and so its an obvious reference point. Then, what he was saying was a convenient defense of his position. He just needed something that got him off the hook for acting like a pig, so that's why he went for it. That's probably all there is to it. He didn't think it through enough to consider how negatively that idea reflects on all men. To be blunt, all of them struck me as pretty dumb, and thinking things through or coming up with non-conventional perspectives are two things they probably don't do often.

    Never the less, those guys are going to be responsible for inmates some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    The op is wrong, so wrong. my room mate is abusive towards woman and is a general asshole, yet has partial custody of his daughter. so no it's not in favor of the woman. if that was the case he'd have none and his ass would be rotting in jail like he deserves. so don't claim that the law favors the mom,
    lol right
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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    lol right
    it's true but then this is the internet, so i'm not gonna try and prove it. but yeah you in florida you can be a pretty shitty person and still have custody of your kids.

    what i'm saying is the fact you lost custody and my room mate hasn't proves that you're even more of a shitty person than him, which I am impressed
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    it's true but then this is the internet, so i'm not gonna try and prove it. but yeah you in florida you can be a pretty shitty person and still have custody of your kids.

    what i'm saying is the fact you lost custody and my room mate hasn't proves that you're even more of a shitty person than him, which I am impressed
    What are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke O View Post
    My understanding and experience of the sexist BS still prevalent in this world increased since I became father to a daughter.
    Try being a mother to a sixteen year old daughter and watching an entire group of city utility workers wait until she passes them on her way home from school only to see them all turn around and begin salivating once she passes and they think its safe. It was wonderful to be consumed by feelings of shock which then turned to disgust coupled with the desire to gouge eyes out with a kitchen utensil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    What are you talking about?
    so you didn't lose custody? if not sorry then nevermind.
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