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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I'm sorry I decided that reading a lot of balls you're posting online without understanding it comes in a very poor and distant second place to go out and meeting women.
    hahahahahahaha you can't even answer this question really? hahhahahaha you have to rely on personal insults to dodge it? you can do better than that man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    hahahahahahaha you can't even answer this question really? hahhahahaha you have rely on personal insults to dodge it? you can do better than that man.
    Have fun online.

    I'll have fun with all the women. You wouldnt like it. You're much better with this, whatever the fuck it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Have fun online.

    I'll have fun with all the women. You wouldnt like it. You're much better with this, whatever the fuck it is.
    hahahahahhahha this is entertainment right here pointing out your stupidity/hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    No, not necessarily. He could just be an asshole. If he's an asshole to women out of proportion to how much he's an asshole to men, then he might also be a misogynist.

    Edited to add: a man being truly chivalrous is not being sexist, IMO, because chivalry requires a degree of selflessness and would not impose help if it would not be appreciated. A man being "chivalrous" only to attractive women and not little old ladies they have no interest in banging? Or a man being "chivalrous" by preventing a woman from doing something she actually wants to do herself? Up for grabs. Actually, chivalry would make an interesting thread topic. I wonder if it already is one?
    An interesting topic, indeed. I just find it unfair when people go out of their way to call sexism, even when the man is demonstrating a high degree of civility. Catch-22.

    Back to the topic, I think 'Mad Men' provides a good illustration of how things used to be. Divorce was frowned upon, a taboo even, so marriages tend to last regardless if the couple was happy or not. Husbands could cheat as they pleased, as women would usually be too scared of the divorcee stigma to leave the marriage. Sexual harassment was rampant, and viewed as natural. Basically, a true patriarchy was needed to keep the marriage success rate high.
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    I try to practice chivalry. I hold doors open for people all the time -- male and female. Yesterday I helped an old lady with her groceries. And yet, I would hesitate to help a man whose car had broken down on the freeway, because if he turned out to be dangerous, I probably wouldn't be physically strong enough to fend him off. Does that make me sexist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Yeah, which is why I think trying to deem an organization the authority on who can be classified a feminist (a la @Jarlaxle's question upthread) is misguided. There are so many different "strains" of feminism, for lack of a better term, and people align with them to various degrees.
    Oh, I am sorry. I will let The Patriarchy know at once

    Seriously though, these are organizations who operate under the flag of mainstream feminism, they are neither ethnocentric (Like Irish Women International) or Lesbian separatists (Like The Furies). If we are going to talk about how feminism changed society we are going to need to attribute the actions and decisions of real organizations to feminism, we can't attribute equal voting rights to feminism without first deciding that we can attribute the political influence of an organization fighting in the name of feminism (The NAWSA) to feminism. These aren't organizations who I deemed as "influenced by systematic feminism" on my own volition, these are well organized groups that self-identify as representations of feminist ideology, 3 of them yield a lot of influence and claim to represent you - as a feminist - in both the UN and US policy. I asked this because I wanted to know if the feminists here feel represented by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    I try to practice chivalry. I hold doors open for people all the time -- male and female. Yesterday I helped an old lady with her groceries. And yet, I would hesitate to help a man whose car had broken down on the freeway, because if he turned out to be dangerous, I probably wouldn't be physically strong enough to fend him off. Does that make me sexist?
    probably good. I've hung out with men talked to them for 20 minutes (not drunk or high) older men usually and then get in their car. And I did that quite a few times and every time my brother would be furious, and I'd be like but nothing happened. Finally i got a ride from a man (it was really hot and i didn't want to walk, damnit) and he just to solicit me for porn, i said no luckily he didn't kidnap me. and since then i've been a lot more cautious.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by jixmixfix View Post
    Yes and it comes down to common sense to help out the weaker sex when it comes to physical tasks as well. It doesn't really matter what task it is. if the person doesn't need help they can also refuse help too you know.



    If she appreciates it, she might reward him for it doesn't have to be sex it could be a simple thank you.
    Man: "Wow, me statistically physicality stronger than woman, so me better. But man angry when other man say woman can do man things without man help! Why they no say woman physically inferior and always need man help? Why they no no agree with me? Grraaar *hit head with club* want woman to feel feeble and helpless to justify man existence! At least man still head of tribe anyway."

    Wife: "I've changed that lightbulb. Why are you wearing those animal skins? Besides, your chicken nuggets are getting cold."

    Man: "Hold on, me mansplaining something. (grunts) why fingers too big for computer keyboard?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    An interesting topic, indeed. I just find it unfair when people go out of their way to call sexism, even when the man is demonstrating a high degree of civility. Catch-22.

    Back to the topic, I think 'Mad Men' provides a good illustration of how things used to be. Divorce was frowned upon, a taboo even, so marriages tend to last regardless if the couple was happy or not. Husbands could cheat as they pleased, as women would usually be too scared of the divorcee stigma to leave the marriage. Sexual harassment was rampant, and viewed as natural. Basically, a true patriarchy was needed to keep the marriage success rate high.
    I agree that people can take it to an extreme and see sexism where it doesn't exist.

    There is an issue in sexism that goes deeper than "civility" vs. "harm", and that has to do with the respect of a woman's will. There is a way that men can force their "kindness" onto a woman and if she rejects it, they are quite offended. I always hated being single because of that feeling I got from interested men that their desire entitled them to me regardless of my personal will in the situation. Just recently I've been dealing with a male stranger online with FB who has been forcefully 'nice' to me and finally got his way to present at a program I have made available to the public. He continued to pursue and post even after I unfriended him. He hasn't done anything definably unkind, but I am unnerved by him and feel some anxiety about having to meet him in person. My will is irrelevant to him, and he keeps trying to take from me. He wants to collaborate and use my time even though he is not nearly a colleague.

    How many men, how many woman, can lose interest in someone they are attracted to because they acknowledge that they can't give the person what they need? People are so selfishly invested that they feel entitled to everything. The sky is the limit. There is no amount of money, no level of attractiveness, no needs in others that can outweigh the achievement of their personal desire. When a demographic has more power, then this entitlement translates into behavior that can feel quite violating, even when it is masked in being 'super nice'. I suppose women could easily be the same way when in positions of power, and if the entire female gender had dominance, then perhaps everything would be equally dysfunctional, but with the reverse dynamic.

    All I can say is that to have your will dismissed is threatening and disturbing whether the behavior is masked in kindness or rudeness.
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    Question, what do you think a weaker man should do in a world with more accepted gay men? Should we also have escorts? Should we learn how to fight better and beaf up?

    This has so long been the reserve of women to think like this, how long until we all have to consider these things seriously?

    What's the end result?

    Do women worry about overly forceful lesbians? If not, does this equate to sexism?

    Not trying to score points, just asking questions I think are interesting.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?
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