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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Yes, if the UK were an American state, it'd be ranked 49th out of 50 in economic prosperity.
    So, just to focus on a single point, you should easily be able to surpass the NHS and show everyone else how it should be done.

    If it's so profitable then it should be liquid enough to achieve the goals you strain against. Unless it's not just about money which would then undermine your concept that a successful business has to be well run.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander
    So, just to focus on a single point, you should easily be able to surpass the NHS and show everyone else how it should be done.
    Sure, if I ran everything, it'd be a piece of cake. I'd dismantle Medicare and Medicaid and offer tax incentives for personal health savings accounts that can be passed down to your kids. I'd focus on the top 3 diseases since these cost us the most money: heart disease/strokes; cancer; and obesity/diabetes.

    The goal is to return to the barter system: customer exchanges money for a service or product. Customer service in some hospitals today is terrible because the patient is not the customer; the patient isn't paying the bill, so the hospital has no incentive to treat the patient with any respect. Removing the third party will restore the relationship between caretaker and patient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    In general, yes. People in the U.S. are happier than Europeans and Americans were far happier under Coolidge/Reagan than under FDR/Obama.
    You have statistics or empirical data to back this up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Not difficult at all. I lived through the 80s under Reagan and I lived through these 6 years under Obama. Night and Day. Also, compare the Roaring Twenties under Coolidge with the Great Depression under FDR; again, night and day. People are happier when the nation is prosperous.
    That's kind of vague and subjective though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcrash
    That's kind of vague and subjective though.
    Google images of the Roaring Twenties under Coolidge vs the Great Depression under FDR. I'm gonna do that right now and see what pops up.

    Done. Lots of photos of people dancing and playing music in the 20s. Lots of miserable looking people standing in lines or holding up signs in the 30s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    Google images of the Roaring Twenties under Coolidge vs the Great Depression under FDR. I'm gonna do that right now and see what pops up.

    Done. Lots of photos of people dancing and playing music in the 20s. Lots of miserable looking people standing in lines or holding up signs in the 30s.
    Perhaps the more constructive approach might be to consider what policies might have led to the depression to begin with, rather than the unhappiness and misfortune of people under a president who by no means caused the depression.

    Also, by googling a term such as "roaring twenties" and "great depression" you are already limiting your search. Google "blacks in 1920s mississippi" and perhaps you might not find so many images of happy people. One's happiness during any given historical period is going to be affected by far more factors than solely which party happened to be in the executive branch of gov't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcrash
    Perhaps the more constructive approach might be to consider what policies might have led to the depression to begin with, rather than the unhappiness and misfortune of people under a president who by no means caused the depression.
    Right. I did this several pages ago. FDR didn't start the Great Depression; Hoover did. FDR did manage to prolong the Great Depression with severe tax increases (tripling of taxes), 10,000 pages of new regulations in 1934 alone, growing the federal bureaucracy which sucked resources out of the private sector (Bureau of Internal Revenue grew from 11,000 to 16,000 in 1935), implementing a minimum wage which priced 500,000 poor African Americans out of a job, setting an age limit of 16 for manufacturing jobs, union friendly laws which doubled the number of labor strikes, seizing private gold, setting price controls on agricultural products, raising the corporate tax to 50%, increased the tax on gasoline, import tarriffs which discouraged trade, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcrash View Post
    You have statistics or empirical data to back this up?
    Happiness isn't necessarily a straightforward thing to measure, but some measures put Nordic countries at the top.

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    I think a good indirect measure of happiness is the immigration vs emigration rate. For instance, 2 million Brits of working age have permanently left that country.

    Emigration: Two million quit Britain in 'talent drain'

    I feel bad that British actors and celebs like Emma Watson, Andrew Lincoln, Damian Lewis, Patrick Stewart, Kate Beckingsale, Gordon Ramsay, and Robert Irvine have to leave their home countries to pursue their dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chthonic View Post
    You can't hold up something that doesn't exist and say there! See it works.
    I agree.
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