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    Quote Originally Posted by Inis Mona
    I think, that high level of stress, anxiety, mental disorders, emotional instability , lack of freetime, lack of time for family, lack of understanding of the emotional needs this all goes hand by hand with the way free market competence force us to be so highly productive and able to win the fight between the producers.
    This is true of every nation, but it is less true of economically freer nations. Compare North Korea (ranked last) to New Zealand or Australia (ranked 3rd and 4th). Compare Greece to the USA. It's so bad in Greece because of socialist policies that Greek mothers, unable to feed their babies, have resorted to abandoning their babies at orphanages.

    The differences between the poor and the rich are growing each day, we feed on the weak and the weak work for us, only to be able to at least have an access to basic needs such as water or food.
    I don't see this as a problem. Bill Gates' wealth has zero bearing on my life. The top 20% of income earners now pay 80% of the income taxes. The rich are feeding the poor; the rich are providing most of the tax revenue to pay for food stamps and childcare and Obamacare.

    Slavery has no place in modern democracy, however yet it is still present by every point you look at the sitation we all have to face.
    I would argue that companies can't afford to pay higher wages because the Government forces them to pay such high taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    This is true of every nation, but it is less true of economically freer nations. Compare North Korea (ranked last) to New Zealand or Australia (ranked 3rd and 4th). Compare Greece to the USA. It's so bad in Greece because of socialist policies that Greek mothers, unable to feed their babies, have resorted to abandoning their babies at orphanages.
    Even the economically freer nations as you called them do have very high expectations on their employees. Mostly if you want to be successful in business and make products worth and able to be sell on the market, you have to sacrifice a lot of your comfort and freedom and invest most of the time into the development of such a product. Which on one hand is destructive for the employees who have to deal with such work, but on the other is beneficial for the consum part of the society, because they are able to buy a better quality product. Social system can suck in lot of countries, Greece's social system is no worse than Norway's for example. The only difference is, Norway has an access to oil and so os able to pay for free social and medical services for its citizens, while Greeks are just probably really bad at mathematic, because what they did was a pure failure of the economics. They could use the cash to feed the dogs, rather than on such a creepy system.

    I don't see this as a problem. Bill Gates' wealth has zero bearing on my life. The top 20% of income earners now pay 80% of the income taxes. The rich are feeding the poor; the rich are providing most of the tax revenue to pay for food stamps and childcare and Obamacare.
    Well U.S is a great example of how a rich nation can feed on the pour. Imagine Africa in the 19th century, imagine how U.S used the african slaves to do inferior laborers white americans refused to do. United states raped the strength of africans and abused their abilities against their will to reach a personal natal gain.
    Europe... Western european countries used to have huge colonies in Africa. They abuse the local resources and workers to access their national wealth.
    Now centuries later Africa is in great international debt, because European countries was forced to leave the colonies and slaves were set free. None ever taught them how to manage the economy, because they have zero access to their own money most of their existence. Even though both Europe and America abused Africa for centuries none of them decided to help them with their economics and let them face their problems with minimum help. Now they sand there white cross workers and pretend they to their best... Well yes, thank you Obama for health care, americans need it so much, the rest of the world can be splashed down the toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inis Mona
    Mostly if you want to be successful in business and make products worth and able to be sell on the market, you have to sacrifice a lot of your comfort and freedom and invest most of the time into the development of such a product.
    The happiest and hardest working people in the US are the small business owners. People don't mind working and sacrificing their time to fulfill their dreams.

    Imagine Africa in the 19th century, imagine how U.S used the african slaves to do inferior laborers white americans refused to do. United states raped the strength of africans and abused their abilities against their will to reach a personal natal gain.
    Slavery isn't part of an economically free society. I'm not sure what ails Africa. It's probably lack of education, lack of infrastructure, and corruption.

    Quote Originally Posted by andresimon
    Sounds like to me any statistic that fits your narrative you are going to take credit for and anything that doesn't you will disregard.
    We've already covered this ground in earlier posts. I've asked people to post evidence that I missed or that I ignored. Nada, nothing, zippo. Fact is, I consider everything because I am completely driven by empirical evidence.

    What you are doing is very religious like. Take anything that fits your reality and disregard the rest. Take any argument against it and they will some how incorporate it into their story. How can you be so arrogant?
    Quite the contrary. I'm begging for evidence to prove me wrong; no one's provided any. I haven't found any. I don't think I'm arrogant; I am confident because I've done my homework; big difference.

    Do we really care who wins the SuperBowl? And in what time frames?
    Yes, that is largely the point.

    How can you not impose a cost on companies for DESTROYING resources.
    I don't have a problem with using resources. The planet's resources are for man to use.

    If a company destroys the atmosphere in the name of "progress", how exactly do you view that?
    That would be wrong because people would be negatively impacted. Most business activity do not negatively impact people.

    You aren't equipped with the mental resources to even begin to answer these questions.
    I think I've answered all your questions.
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