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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Much of the world does though. It is just as valid (or more so because it has stood the test of time and is still a useful guidebook at the least) as man determining what is harmful or not. Spiritually influenced or worldly influenced. Take your pick. I have a right to choose mine.
    I agree, the Bible is a great guidebook for morality!

    Like when we go to war with a heathen nation, we should be killing a lot more of their children upon the rocks. (Psalm 137:9) And what’s with our modern laxity in dealing with our own heathen citizens? We ought to make them eat their own children like God did! (Jeremiah 19:9) And speaking of therapy, I need a lot of it for the many issues I have which stem from being taught by female school teachers! (Timothy 1:2:12) Also, why did we fight a Civil War over slavery when the Bible clearly says that slavery is A-Okay? What’s with all this hand-wringing over perfectly acceptable modern human trafficking? (Peter 1:2:18) Oh, and eating pork and touching footballs [made from pigskin] is just as much a sin as homosexuality; why are there no conversion therapies for orienting sinners away from unclean food? (Leviticus 11:7)

    When it comes to Biblical wisdom, this is just the tip of the iceberg! I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on...Yup, just as valid and useful a guidebook as ever.
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    Nah. It's more on par with being fat because of lifelong unhealthy eating habits or filling your stomach because of emotional reasons. Eye color is given by God, just as one's sex is.

    It's not the same to say one is born gay because God makes man and woman fit together perfectly, mind, heart, and body! Man is not made to be with man, although they can be. We are given free will.

    The only problem with free will is that when it deviates from God's will for us, as it does in the realm of life partnership for men living a sexually gay lifestyle, it means they are not going to live up to the fullest expression of who they are as people. We can't because God only has a plan for us, and has made a perfect partner for us. To live a life of our choosing is our right, given by Him, but it's just not going to provide as much happiness as Him choosing our mate would (or perhaps He has a life of solitude for some). Not only that, but every male who chooses to be with another male chooses also for his intended mate, having a ripple effect on many people's lives that is really unknowable.

    Men in prison become gay because they are being lustful and want to get their rocks off. You can have intimacy without having sexual relations. I think it's rather disgusting how in our culture we equate intimacy needs with sexual orientation. We identify ourselves more by who we want to sex with than focusing on whether our ideal partner has entered our lives, or when they will enter our lives! I've said it a million times, you can sex anything or anyone and all that tells me is that there are many ways to have an orgasm, or to get off.

    I support people's right to choose to live in their free will. I support more their right to live in God's will for them is all.
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    ^if being gay is the same as being fat then stop being straight, go on force yourself to be aroused by a woman. it's ok you can repent you'll still get into heaven
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Nah. It's more on par with being fat because of lifelong unhealthy eating habits or filling your stomach because of emotional reasons. Eye color is given by God, just as one's sex is.

    It's not the same to say one is born gay because God makes man and woman fit together perfectly, mind, heart, and body! Man is not made to be with man, although they can be. We are given free will.
    I'll just refer you back to the whole 'I'm conveniently ignoring how extremely offensive I am because it'd really suck to find out I was actually not just wrong, but also talking like a major douchebag this whole time' comment. Most of the time, this is why people are more resistant to education and change. People want to think they're better people than they really are. And any truth that reveals that they're actually being shitty and their personality isn't that great is too much to handle. To the point of complete denial.

    I hope your children weren't born gay.. because gods help them there is nothing worse than a mother rejecting her child.

    You know what else fits perfectly together? Ice cream sales and murder rates in urban areas. I'm sure those two are just hand-in-hand. They were made for each other. There couldn't be another factor in place that completely negates the fact the two seemingly are perfect causations of each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    I'll just refer you back to the whole 'I'm conveniently ignoring how extremely offensive I am because it'd really suck to find out I was actually not just wrong, but also talking like a major douchebag this whole time' comment. Most of the time, this is why people are more resistant to education and change. People want to think they're better people than they really are. And any truth that reveals that they're actually being shitty and their personality isn't that great is too much to handle. To the point of complete denial.

    I hope your children weren't born gay.. because gods help them there is nothing worse than a mother rejecting her child.

    You know what else fits perfectly together? Ice cream sales and murder rates in urban areas. I'm sure those two are just hand-in-hand. They were made for each other. There couldn't be another factor in place that completely negates the fact the two seemingly are perfect causations of each other.
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    As much as I want to just slowly back away from this thread and then run away when I'm off visual contact .......

    When exactly do we call a method outright fraudulent? There's 'not working,' sure, but fraudulent? That implies that harm was intended. In this case, I don't think JONAH peddles snake oil willingly.

    JONAH and other organizations can eat a dick~ as far as I'm concerned, but I don't know if the court is the right avenue to get 'em to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Nah. It's more on par with being fat because of lifelong unhealthy eating habits or filling your stomach because of emotional reasons. Eye color is given by God, just as one's sex is.

    It's not the same to say one is born gay because God makes man and woman fit together perfectly, mind, heart, and body! Man is not made to be with man, although they can be. We are given free will.

    The only problem with free will is that when it deviates from God's will for us, as it does in the realm of life partnership for men living a sexually gay lifestyle, it means they are not going to live up to the fullest expression of who they are as people. We can't because God only has a plan for us, and has made a perfect partner for us. To live a life of our choosing is our right, given by Him, but it's just not going to provide as much happiness as Him choosing our mate would (or perhaps He has a life of solitude for some). Not only that, but every male who chooses to be with another male chooses also for his intended mate, having a ripple effect on many people's lives that is really unknowable.
    This is great news, AGA, because I've had terrible luck in finding a wife! I'm so glad to hear that God made the perfect woman for me. So, did God assign us each a sort of spousal SSN when at some point so that we could find our perfect partners? If so, I believe I've lost mine. Where do I go to get a replacement?

    On second thought, no, that would be uncharacteristically direct of God. I'm probably supposed to find her on my own...but how? You say that anatomy is important to this aspect of life, so maybe I just need to sleep with as many women as possible until I find the one that fits my cock just right! No? You're right, I run a higher risk of STDs that way; I should probably take a more subtle approach. Well if there's some perfect-fit woman for me out there, I'll just ask every one I meet for her internal measurements and compare with my own length and girth! Yes, this sounds like a foolproof plan.

    But wait! What if my perfect partner is somewhere far away, like China? I do love what those east Asian cuties have goin' on. How will I ever meet her if God put her in a distant land? Hm, I guess I'll have to start mail-ordering brides...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jscrothers View Post
    As much as I want to just slowly back away from this thread and then run away when I'm off visual contact .......

    When exactly do we call a method outright fraudulent? There's 'not working,' sure, but fraudulent? That implies that harm was intended. In this case, I don't think JONAH peddles snake oil willingly.

    JONAH and other organizations can eat a dick~ as far as I'm concerned, but I don't know if the court is the right avenue to get 'em to do it.
    That's a good on-topic question, and I was hoping to see the discussion revolve more around that since, well, that is the topic of the thread.

    Do you think there's a difference depending on how it's promoted and whether money is accepted for the "service" being provided, since it's typically tied into ministry anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jscrothers View Post
    As much as I want to just slowly back away from this thread and then run away when I'm off visual contact .......

    When exactly do we call a method outright fraudulent? There's 'not working,' sure, but fraudulent? That implies that harm was intended. In this case, I don't think JONAH peddles snake oil willingly.

    JONAH and other organizations can eat a dick~ as far as I'm concerned, but I don't know if the court is the right avenue to get 'em to do it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    That's a good on-topic question, and I was hoping to see the discussion revolve more around that since, well, that is the topic of the thread.

    Do you think there's a difference depending on how it's promoted and whether money is accepted for the "service" being provided, since it's typically tied into ministry anyway?
    my understanding is ignorance doesn't get you out of punishment for committing a crime. If I got a ticket for jay walking (stupidest thing ever) I would still have to pay the ticket. and the fact they were reporting 70% success rates goes beyond ignorance, yeah the might've thought they were doing a good thing, but why did they have to lie about their success rate then? I mean really they could just get some brain washed patients get statements from them (of course before they get unbrain washed by society at large) weak minded people, who are probably gonna join dooms day cults and commit mass suicide any ways. oh wait probably because they couldn't find any because it's that pseudo sciencey. HA! I win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Nah. It's more on par with being fat because of lifelong unhealthy eating habits or filling your stomach because of emotional reasons. Eye color is given by God, just as one's sex is.
    It is truly frightening that you work in any health care field.
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