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    Quote Originally Posted by Z Buck McFate View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if the scariest thing (to opponents) is that, when it comes right down to it, there's nothing actually harmful in being gay. There's no rational reason to oppose it. As all the previously instituted associations to harmful behaviors (like pedophilia, bestiality- situations that harmful because they involve an un-consenting participant, and have absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality) are slowly stripped away, there's no rational argument left as a deterrent. The single only scary thing about this boogey man is that Scripture says it's wrong- and in a way (if someone believes dogmatically in Scripture), I can see how that makes it an even scarier boogey man than the things that are clearly wrong and easy enough to argue the wrongness of.
    There is something else scary, a paradigm shift.

    Where I grew up there was little diversity. No real subcultures or "minorities". Hence when I get chatted up one day by a guy guy in my house, in my own room no less, whilst being the only two people in the house... My paradigm changes. Suddenly I'm not talking to 'just one of the lads' as I knew it but someone who saw me as a potential sexual partner. Now I'm not saying there was anything inherently wrong with it but I was entirely unprepared. To that point I don't think I'd had that many offers from females and surely none I'd turned down and definitely none which were an automatic no (I fear that sounds really negative but it was my honest response, I'll let you judge my intentions and foibles to your hearts content). In that moment I had to say no whilst panicking about coming across as homophobic and in the realisation that unlike most girls this guy could force the issue if he so wished and I would be at a severe disadvantage. I think I gave a couple of stone and about four inches in height in comparison.

    Yes it's basic but it obeys the base male rules of
    Can I eat it?
    Can I kill it?
    Can I shag it?

    I was ill equipped for the situation and until homosexuality becomes just another facet of society it will worry people. The odd thing is that the instinct is to fight the very thing necessary to solve the problem.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    I'm wondering if some homophobia still exists cuz of that stereotype of gaymen than that will rape all men and boys. growing up a lot of people legit believed that, that all gay men were pedophiles and hypersexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    In that moment I had to say no whilst panicking about coming across as homophobic and in the realisation that unlike most girls this guy could force the issue if he so wished and I would be at a severe disadvantage. I think I gave a couple of stone and about four inches in height in comparison.
    Gives you a new perspective on the history of womanhood, does it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I'm wondering if some homophobia still exists cuz of that stereotype of gaymen than that will rape all men and boys. growing up a lot of people legit believed that, that all gay men were pedophiles and hypersexual.
    What if some of them are?

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    Some of them are. So are some straight men, but nobody seems to think that reflects on all straight men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    What if some of them are?
    so are some straight men, what's your point?
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    I know actual studies/data don't nearly have the clout as idle speculation might, but I apparently have a closet case of terminal idealism:

    Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation (from UC Davis)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I know actual studies/data don't nearly have the clout as idle speculation might, but I apparently have a closet case of terminal idealism:

    Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation (from UC Davis)
    i don't think they are molesters, i actually feel safer in general around gay men and lesbians than straight people, which might make me sexist in a sense, but i do i can't explain it. maybe because i'm not worried about being hit on, with the friends i've had that have been lesbians never tried to hit on me, though one said i'd make a good after asking what my sexuality is, but that doesn't count. and gay men they like other men and i am not a dude so it works.

    edit: soooo... does this mean i'm heterophobic? i don't know.
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    The level of stupidity and ignorance is mighty strong in some members participating in this thread. Fucking hell. I'm restraining myself from hitting reply and verbally punching some of these people in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    What if some of them are?
    For every one of them, how many more are straight (appearing), good Christian men with wives and families? I especially love the ones that were youth ministers, christian talk show hosts, boy scout leaders....you get the idea. Proof? Ok.

    Ex-Christian radio host guilty in child rape case
    Grandville youth pastor arrested on sex charges | WOODTV.com
    Retired teacher, scoutmaster faces sex charges | Local News - WYFF Home

    There are pages and pages of these same sorts of cases. How many more are unreported? I don't even want to think of the number but you better start labeling straight men sex offenders as vigorously as you are accusing gays.
    I like to rock n' roll all night and *part* of every day. I usually have errands... I can only rock from like 1-3.
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