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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    I take it you aren't very familiar with SilentMusings and his feelings on race, nationality and oh how could I forget, feminism.
    I dont feel that inclined to an interest given what I've read in the thread, I do have a suspiscion that they've got years to grow beyond this though.

    There's only one blog which I really dislike and its a libertarian one, also pretty nationalistic american.

    Racism, nationalism and anti-feminism are generally for the people who spend fridays and saturdays in alone without a date for the Nth week running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    France, like Sweden, is too far gone. This multi-cultural experiment with flooding the country with millions of muslims has failed spectacularly. This is yet another manifestation of destructive, leftist ideology. I don't feel sorry for them one bit.
    Even if you were swedish and actually knew what it's like living here, you're absolutely wrong and should be ashamed of yourself for making such narrow-minded shit up and presenting it like it's some sort of objective truth to equally bigoted outsiders. Shame on you all for spreading and breeding hate with lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    That all sounds like a pack of toxic lies.
    Do the research yourself then. You are acting like a child who doesn't want to hear anything difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    If there are ideas carried by immigrants from one country to another which are antithetical to the things you regard as uniquely western, which I think is a problematic belief all by itself but not surprising from an ahistorical nationalist, then those ideas are only a mirror of other equally antithetical ones which are already there.
    Please explain to me, and other concerned people, how we benefit from millions of Muslims living in our countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Objectively I see no difference between Brevik and terrorists such as the jihadists in France, they are all part of the anti-life equation, they all conspired to murder children, whether its in Norway or Pakistan, and deliberately choose weak, vulnerable targets which can not prove any sort of a challenge to them.
    In that case, you're actually with me as I am averse to violence. It is partly for this reason that seeing large numbers of immigrants makes me uneasy. You don't have to be a genius to realise that multiculturalism is generating conflict, and there are in fact historical precedents that suggest it will get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    There was a massive anti-islamic rally in Germany on the day this atrocity actually happened in France.
    That was in Dresden, a city known for being a neonazi stronghold. Here is a comparison of the numbers of anti-islamic demonstrators (Pegida) in grey and pro-multiculturalism counter demonstrators in pink:






    Also, there have been over 50 attacks on Muslims in France since the Charlie Hebdo attack. Sadly, to at least some degree that too was to be expected. Humanity *sigh*
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    Quote Originally Posted by velveteen View Post
    Even if you were swedish and actually knew what it's like living here, you're absolutely wrong and should be ashamed of yourself for making such narrow-minded shit up and presenting it like it's some sort of objective truth to equally bigoted outsiders. Shame on you all for spreading and breeding hate with lies.
    OK, maybe you could explain why the Swedish Democrats, who run on an anti-immigration platform, have more than doubled their vote since the last election. They currently hold the balance of power and have prevented a budget being passed, so another election is being held next March. This hasn't happened for over half a century in Sweden.

    I don't live there either, but I don't have to live somewhere to be informed of their politics, watch trends and draw conclusions from them.

    Take a moment to examine your own posts. You are essentially dismissing any contrary evidence as not just "hateful", but accusing the people who make the claims of being wrong out of hand. He can't be right, because it's just wrong. This is what I loathe about liberals. You claim to be tolerant and enlightened people, but become incredibly hostile whenever your irrational worldview is threatened. I have rarely met less open-minded people. Why can't we just casually talk about this over a beer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    That was in Dresden, a city known for being a neonazi stronghold. Here is a comparison of the numbers of anti-islamic demonstrators (Pegida) in grey and pro-multiculturalism counter demonstrators in pink:
    A disparity in protestor numbers will always exist for two reasons: Lefties and immigrants have a hive mentality that makes it easy for them to rally, and they also are more likely to be unemployed and lack families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    I take it you aren't very familiar with SilentMusings and his feelings on race, nationality and oh how could I forget, feminism.
    You're free to disagree with me about any of those things. One of the cultural customs I value the most is the freedom to dissent, especially on contentious political issues. This is antithetical to Fe-heavy ideologies like socialism and Islam. They are based around the idea that the state knows what is best for you, even though we're all unique people. Even the groups we belong to are varied and exclusive. The belief that everyone in the world can mix and live in peace may be charming, but it is nonetheless utterly delusional.

    Many people on your side of the fence think that I and people like me should be denied the right to speak our minds, organise rallies and form parties because you fear us and we offend your sense of morality. Screw you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    Do the research yourself then. You are acting like a child who doesn't want to hear anything difficult.
    I did my research, including reading the psych profile of sad bastards like Brevik and realising that they are not enviable, they are not intellectual and they have nothing what so ever to offer anyone.

    Please explain to me, and other concerned people, how we benefit from millions of Muslims living in our countries.
    Its not my mission in life to waste time reinforcing the views of bigots with the counter arguments which lead them to mistakenly believe they could be on to something after all. The information is out there to more than answer any of your rhetorical questions, especially the obvious ones like this one.

    In that case, you're actually with me as I am averse to violence. It is partly for this reason that seeing large numbers of immigrants makes me uneasy. You don't have to be a genius to realise that multiculturalism is generating conflict, and there are in fact historical precedents that suggest it will get worse.
    Well maybe your aversion to violence could become an aversion to ignorance and we'll all be done a favour, I think immigrants make you uneasy because they play that part in your ideology, I'll bet its a particular sort of immigrant, not the white, english speaking, french speaking, german speaking, maybe not even the spanish speaking or italian speaking, christians etc.

    The rants about multiculturalism are so, so, so old, what is the problem are inflexible, totalitarian, monocultures lining up against one another and preparing for war with legions of useful idiots flocking to their cause like lemmings. Plenty of historical precident for that.

    Here's a clue, these sorts of chauvinistic creedos, the monsterous creeds that lead to monsterous deeds, they dont appeal to people who arent afraid or angry but they're less likely to appeal to anyone who has been historically treated as one of the "suspect communities" like a roman catholic in NI. Like the bible says remember the foreigner, for you too were foreigners in Egypt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    OK, maybe you could explain why the Swedish Democrats, who run on an anti-immigration platform, have more than doubled their vote since the last election.
    They're a party of discontent. Because of the financial crisis and 8 years of right wing rule, the public sector has suffered considerable blows to health care and education, and unemployment rates have increased. The Swedish Democrats have increased in numbers because they're making immigration out to be the root of all the problems. It's an easy scapegoat in times of economic insecurity. Granted, the failure to integrate immigrants leads to money being thrown down a sinkhole, as well as intergroup frictions between both Swedes and immigrants and amongst the immigrants themselves, but they simplify the problem to attract people looking for where to point the blame. Their voters think stopping immigration is a magic fix that will solve issues involving way more factors than shitty integration. It's no coincidence their biggest voter group is poorly educated young men.

    They currently hold the balance of power and have prevented a budget being passed, so another election is being held next March. This hasn't happened for over half a century in Sweden.
    Nope. An agreement was reached in December to make sure a minority government would be able to pass their budget, and to minimize the political influence of the Swedish Democrats. They no longer hold the balance of power, and there will be no re-election.
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    I do not think the main subject here should be Swedish politics on immigration.

    Yesterday, a huge "Republican protest" occured in France and in the world. Never, in the entire history of my country, you had so many people demonstrating in the streets for Freedom of speech. Dozens of the world leaders were there to show their solidarity. Dozens but ONE.



    And since this forum is still dominated by US citizens (demographically speaking), I'm wondering what they may think of this.

    What happened to our oldest ally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    I do not think the main subject here should be Swedish politics on immigration.

    Yesterday, a huge "Republican protest" occured in France and in the world. Never, in the entire history of my country, you had so many people demonstrating in the streets for Freedom of speech. Dozens of the world leaders were there to show their solidarity. Dozens but ONE.



    And since this forum is still dominated by US citizens (demographically speaking), I'm wondering what they may think of this.

    What happened to our oldest ally?
    Oh I think we should have went. I know the secret service was vehemently against Obama going but, John Kerry, Joe Biden (not the best choice but better than nothing), even Michelle Obama or Bill Clinton would have been ok. I just thought it was a shitty thing for the US to do.
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