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    Is there a position somewhere between "this is one crazy guy" and "keep out the Muslims"?
    Take the weakest thing in you
    And then beat the bastards with it
    And always hold on when you get love
    So you can let go when you give it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    I wish people your way would ask whether Australia gained more than it has lost from multiculturalism, but that is asking the impossible. It is pretty much a religion for liberals. Some posters here are very similar to the religious fundamentalists they claim to hate.
    You remind me of the person in my class (originally from Ireland) that insisted immigrants are scum and that everyone should "go home", even the native people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Is there a position somewhere between "this is one crazy guy" and "keep out the Muslims"?
    One of Australia's more successful Prime Ministers, John Howard, has said rather than being in favour of multi-culturalism, he is in favour of multi-racialism.

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    If anyone knows arabic for good, check this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Alas, Jihad, or Holy War to spread Islam, has been part of Islam since the Prophet moved to Medina.

    Jihad has been enormously successful in spreading Islam from Spain to Indonesia.

    And conservatively, today 20% of muslims are Jihadis or Islamists.

    Jihad is not fighting with weapons, that’s a mistranslation of the arabic word.

    War is forbidden unless to fight evil and injustice supporting incense people, war is never the normal state, and it’s not how things suppose to be, but when the time comes all muslims should fight (mentally then physically) for right and against wrong and evil.

    But Jihad is pushing toward good, it’s positive and it has levels, like being faithful, then the highest level of Jihad is mental, and it’s to teach and speak for what’s right, to explain Quran and Islam, to educate.

    Killing innocent people is forbidden, and judging people even if it’s by your words is also forbidden unless it’s you’re responsibility and you’re a ruler or parent, but hurting whom you’re responsible of is forbidden, ..

    So yes I cannot even question you and ask you why you’re not faithful? it’s forbidden.

    Enough said or it’s not clear yet?


    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    I believe most Muslims are against terror. I'm not so sure what the Quran actually teaches or the extent to which most Muslims are reliant on the Quran for their beliefs.

    3:151 Sahih International
    We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.

    Surat 'Ali `Imran [3:151] - The Noble Qur'an - القرآن الكريم

    the word “أقتل” which means fight, is different form the word “أقاتل” which means fighting back (defence).
    However, weather muslims thought or not, this is what Islam says, Islam is the rule, muslims are followers, we cannot judge a religion by it’s followers as there are good examples and bad examples everywhere.
    That’s IF we want to understand the idea and not just attack the idea before understanding it like childish act.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunyata View Post
    Nietzsche recognized Islam in contrast to Christianity and Buddhism explicitly for its will to power and adherence to the patriarchy.

    Umm.. That’s his opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    I think the bible said several things about not murdering/killing anyone but the crusades were sanctioned by the pope(s) himself. So don't be a naive to the point of it being laughable.

    But Islam is unlike christianity..
    And it’s forbidden to murder or to kill an innocent soul.
    Also it’s forbidden to punish/judge without having the right and ability to do so, and this has many terms like justice is one of the musts.
    In short I cannot sit and murder people because I think they’re wrong etc.
    Imagine this is the best thing you've ever read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    No doubt you can enlighten me on how racial diversity improves GDP. Wait, you can't, because there is no connection between those two factors.
    Military strategists have learned deeply regarding the autonomy of a self-sufficient unit comprised of equally capable self-sufficient parts.

    This is in contrast to historic doctrine in which the unit was governed by fewer numerous controls and all the quirks associated with chain of command, most notably stagnancy between action and reaction.

    Unity is the manner by which fluidity is achieved, a dynamic set of shifting paradigms to accommodate for tasks at hand and overcome resistances that would hinder the reliant.

    This unity will be wrung by one of two manners: genocide or acceptance. I find the former deeply impractical, it seems as anti-racial sentiment spreads the viscosity of competing ideology is whipped to an equal fervor, and better yet, with home field advantage.

    In America we are each from top to bottom taught that we ourselves are the end of our destiny. We are each a fresh tendril by which we probe the future, three hundred million little convex tinkerers hammering away at a vision. It shows in much of what we accomplish as a nation.
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    And the latest news headlines in the world of terror. At least 126 (mostly kids) killed in a school in Pakistan by Taliban. Fuck these shit heads.

    BBC News - Pakistan Taliban kill scores in Peshawar school massacre

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    Body count at 141 for now.

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    This alarmist pap is deplorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    This alarmist pap is deplorable.
    Militants from the Pakistani Taliban have attacked an army-run school in Peshawar, killing 141 people, 132 of them children, the military say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    This alarmist pap is deplorable.
    Militants from the Pakistani Taliban have attacked an army-run school in Peshawar, killing 141 people, 132 of them children, the military say.
    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
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    Now, change the title of this thread to, "Islamic Terror in Pakistan", and see how that translates versus, "Taliban Terror in Pakistan".
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