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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    How patronizing and almost proselytizing like. Islam IS a religion. Period. There is no argument or discussion there at all. Sharia law comes from Islam, the vast majority of it throughout the world is from the mindset of enforcing adherence to Islam. Not everyone agrees with Islam, and that is the problem. For example, I am atheist, and I am for the reason that there is no reasonable or credible evidence towards any religious or spiritual belief system. As such, I feel nor see no reason to put stock into something that is unsupportable. I further do not agree with sharia law. I see it as archaic and backwards in many respects, and secular law as far superior to it. Of which is used much more commonly throughout the world because it has supportable basis to it. Sharia dictates how individuals are supposed to live their lives in ways that do not effect others around them. It's a moral police which is flat not acceptable as morals that do not harm others are to be the decision of the individual.

    You want others to live and adhere to the values of your religion even though many people do not share or agree with. That is not how the world should work, and is WILDLY unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    The irony.
    Yeah, I'm not seeing it.
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    @Mademoiselle

    Ftr, I don't doubt your position is genuinely held or that it is indeed the way you were brought up to believe as I understand that your home country (if I remember it correctly) does not criminalize apostasy (though it would not surprise me if people in rural areas took matters into their own hands without accountability).

    I'm genuinely interested in hearing you explain the differences between your faith and that of other Muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mademoiselle View Post
    If you study Sharia you’d agree that Islam is not just a religion, besides Sharia is not just an Islamic law.
    Define Sharia.
    Define Islam.
    Define Religion.

    If your statement is literal and non-metaphorical, you are incorrect.
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    The Clash - Sharia don't like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eska View Post
    Define Sharia.
    Define Islam.
    Define Religion.

    If your statement is literal and non-metaphorical, you are incorrect.
    She said "not just" which means "more than" and everyone is going to view their own religion or worldview the same way. The only exception would be a totally consistent relativist and those don't exist.
    You guys are so sucked into your own worldview you really can't step out of it to logically assess other views.

    I do get annoyed when people say their faith "isn't" religion. That is illogical. But believing your faith is more than "just" a religion isn't an issue of logic at all though obviously you can attack the premise and the basis for it being exceptional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    She said "not just" which means "more than" and everyone is going to view their own religion or worldview the same way. The only exception would be a totally consistent relativist and those don't exist.
    Which is what I'm questioning.

    You guys are so sucked into your own worldview you really can't step out of it to logically assess other views.
    Are you referring to me?

    I do get annoyed when people say their faith "isn't" religion. That is illogical. But believing your faith is more than "just" a religion isn't an issue of logic at all though obviously you can attack the premise and the basis for it being exceptional.
    A faith isn't necessarily a religion, although, I get your point and I agree that it is illogical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eska View Post
    Which is what I'm questioning.
    You're questioning because you can't get outside your own worldview. You view Islam as a religion. She views it as the religion. That is what makes it more than "just" a religion to her. That's not a matter of metaphor. If you honestly believe that there is only one god and that Muhhamad is his prophet then within that framework it really is not "just" a religion as that puts islam on par with every other religion.

    Do you think using logic and reason is just a way to look at the world or the way?

    It's not that she's being logically inconsistent it's just that you probably think your worldview is superior to her's from the start and aren't thinking within her framework of belief.

    Are you referring to me?
    You and hard.

    A faith isn't necessarily a religion, although, I get your point and I agree that it is illogical.
    Give me an example of a faith that isn't a religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    You and hard.
    Lol like I care about what you think at all. I'm stuck in my world view because I know I'm right. It's a major reason why I refuse to debate the minutia of religion. It's a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    Lol like I care about what you think at all. I'm stuck in my world view because I know I'm right. It's a major reason why I refuse to debate the minutia of religion. It's a waste of time.
    It's the hypocracy that's annoying.
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