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    Some college girl somewhere in the States was raped by a bunch of frat boys. We might as well call her Jackie Coakley and go back to the problem in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    You vastly underestimate the ability and extent some people will go with a story and fabricate a national level lie. Just because you can't see it for yourself, does not mean it can't, or doesn't happen.
    absolutely I know people do it, i don't but things don't surprise me much anymore

    Elizabeth Coast's False Rape Claim Leads To 2 Months Jail In Virginia

    A Hampton, Virginia woman who falsely accused a man of raping her -- landing him in prison for four years -- will spend two months in jail.

    Elizabeth Paige Coast, 26, will be allowed to serve her sentence on weekends. She came forward in 2012, saying that she lied about Johnathan C. Montgomery raping her. He spent four years in prison over the false claim, the Richmond Times-Dispatch reports.

    Coast told a judge Monday that when she was caught by her mother looking at pornography on the internet, she said she had been sexually assaulted, blamed her neighbor. The lie snowballed from there, she said.

    "I had no idea how far this lie would go," Coast said.

    During Montgomery's case, Coast testified that he molested her in 2000 when he was 14 and she was 10. Montgomery was convicted and sentenced to more than seven years in prison, according to the Washington Post.

    When Montgomery was arrested, Coast said she stuck by her lie.

    "I was petrified of the police ... everyone in my life knew," she said. "I was afraid of what my family would think."

    Despite a lack of evidence in the trial, the judge took Coast's word over Montgomery's and sentenced the innocent man.

    "It's just too awful," Montgomery told the Associated Press after his 2012 release. "She can't take it back. She did what she did and she has to deal with the consequences."

    The consequences for sending an innocent man to prison for four years include paying $90,000 in restitution along with her jail sentence.
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    It happens. At about the same rate as false claims of other felonies. The rate of false accusation is not nearly as high as some people would have you believe.
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    A false accusation of rape is the intentional reporting of a rape by an alleged victim when no rape has occurred. Studies have found that police typically classify between 1.5 and 8% of rape accusations as unfounded, unproven or false, however researchers say those determinations are often dubious. The "conventional scholarly wisdom," according to American law professor Michelle J. Anderson, is that two percent of rape complaints made to the police are false. The United States Justice Department agrees, saying false accusations "are estimated to occur at the low rate of two percent -- similar to the rate of false accusations for other violent crimes." However, others say eight percent or more of rape accusations are false, and as a scientific matter the answer remains unknown.[1]
    False accusation of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Do false accusations cause serious harm to both the innocently accused and to real victims. Yes. Are they enough of an issue to warrant how much their discussion distracts from real rape? Nope.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    More developments: The accuser has allegedly made similar accusations back in 2011 as part of a protest. I suppose it's possible that she was raped twice in 18 months, but statistically speaking, it's highly improbable.

    LMAO. Check out your article again. Turns out this noble defender of the truth didn't fact check either and that the girl in the photo probably isn't actually the victim ... if one takes the trouble to parse his circuitous prose (dude has no problems being direct when he's posting people's personal info online to smear their names, does he?)

    Bahahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    It happens. At about the same rate as false claims of other felonies. The rate of false accusation is not nearly as high as some people would have you believe.
    of course not, but the fact that it does happen, makes when it is true harder for people to believe. people don't care about numbers, if it can illicit an emotional response in the direction you want they're gonna use that as evidence. and most people aren't gonna be like well "only 234 people claimed false rape in the past 5 years but 2,452,300 reported and were actually raped during that time, the numbers say she is likely telling the truth" no, what they hear is "OMG bitches lie dirty dirty whore rabble rabble"


    p.s. the number were completely made up on my end
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    Also, fucking LOL at him bitching and moaning about doxxing after gleefully making Twitter threats and splashing this woman's name all over the media.

    I love it when bullies get a taste of their own medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    of course not, but the fact that it does happen, makes when it is true harder for people to believe.
    Then people are idiots. If about 98% of accusations are true it is unrealistic to start from a position of disbelief - in the private or public real. The legal realm is something different where everybody is presumed innocent until proven guilty (and for good reason). How about cautious belief and withholding final judgement until further investigation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    Then people are idiots. If about 98% of accusations are true it is unrealistic to start from a position of disbelief - in the private or public real. The legal realm is something different where everybody is presumed innocent until proven guilty (and for good reason). How about cautious belief and withholding final judgement until further investigation?
    of course that was my point. you can spout of numbers and stats all day but unless you go after their emotional/moral side it's not gonna do a thing to change things.
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    It's one thing to accuse a person or a group of people of an awful crime anonymously, and another to pursue charges through the legal system. Anonymous accusations of rape try and convict the accused in the court of public opinion without recourse to a trial.

    In general, the more sensational the accusation, the more skeptical I become, especially if it fits "the narrative". (This applies to any accusation, for me, not just those of rape.)
    An argument is two people sharing their ignorance.

    A discussion is two people sharing their understanding, even when they disagree.
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