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    Its things like this that make me appreciate my country a great deal. Basically in finland government owned organizations have the legal monopoly for slow machines(RAY) and for other gambling like lottery and betting on sports(Veikkaus). All of the profits of RAY go other non profit social- and health organizations, like for example to one that helps the handicaps, blind, supporting mentally ill, gambling addicts, finnish red cross etc. and organizations can apply for grants. Profits from Veikkaus supports arts, sports, sciences, youth work and 10% to something else that needs it at the time.
    While one system like this doesent automatically make a country socialist, i think this represents the socialist society quite well.

    I know there are many people on the forums who are against socialism, but if you look at this particular thing. What makes it a bad thing?

    Also im interested to hear if other countries has similar gambling system. I suspect nordic countries do, but not sure.
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    Here the provincial government controls all licensing of gambling (or "gaming") establishments and owns and manages VLTs (Video Lottery Terminals; they're video gaming machines that emulate slot machines, video poker and the like). A portion of the revenue from slot machines in casinos also goes to the government, as does revenue from ticket lotteries (including sports betting). The revenue (about $1.5 billion per year) from slot machines, VLTs, ticket lotteries and sports betting goes into a charitable foundation, which in turn grants about half of it to other charitable foundations (the foundation for the arts, municipal development funds, aboriginal development funds, etc.). The other half of the gambling revenue goes to the provincial health authority, which runs the acute health care system (hospitals and the like).

    It sounds like our system and the Finnish system are very alike.


    EDIT: Also, the same government body that manages gambling manages the sale of alcohol and levies a "mark-up" (a tax by another name) on alcohol sold everywhere. The revenue from alcohol sales also goes into the lottery fund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    Here the provincial government controls all licensing of gambling (or "gaming") establishments and owns and manages VLTs (Video Lottery Terminals; they're video gaming machines that emulate slot machines, video poker and the like). A portion of the revenue from slot machines in casinos also goes to the government, as does revenue from ticket lotteries (including sports betting). The revenue (about $1.5 billion per year) from slot machines, VLTs, ticket lotteries and sports betting goes into a charitable foundation, which in turn grants about half of it to other charitable foundations (the foundation for the arts, municipal development funds, aboriginal development funds, etc.). The other half of the gambling revenue goes to the provincial health authority, which runs the acute health care system (hospitals and the like).

    It sounds like our system and the Finnish system are very alike.


    EDIT: Also, the same government body that manages gambling manages the sale of alcohol and levies a "mark-up" (a tax by another name) on alcohol sold everywhere. The revenue from alcohol sales also goes into the lottery fund.
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    So money earned from gambling is used in part to treat gambling addition in Finland? That's .. ... pretty cool.


    Individual states here in the good ol' US have something kind of similar. Not necessarily that all gambling is state-controlled, but that they do run some sort of lotteries that are intended to fund, say, education.

    There's also the whole "state-run gambling is a tax on the poor" argument. Acting on total freedom of choice vs. choice unfairly tainted by false hope? Can't be arsed to post anything pro- or anti- that at the moment, but it's relevant.
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