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    The Political Compass is not exactly my favorite test, but here's my result:

    Economic Left/Right: -5.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87

    The Political Philosophy test:

    1.American "Liberal"
    2.Social Democratic
    3.Social Liberal

    I think this is the most accurate and comprehensive political test: Political test - The great site for testing and comparing your political alignments - free of charge and independent!

    My result is in the other thread.

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    Individualist anarchist, but 100% Anarcho-Communist, 92% Liberal Socialist and 88% Marxist according to the political philosophy test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I actually was not kidding. If you believe in voluntaryism, then you must volunteer yourself. Otherwise, you would be a hypocrite.
    Then I suggest you read the explanation of what voluntaryism means. As long as no force is involved, then an interaction is voluntary. I never use force to achieve my goals, and therefore I'm not a hypocrite.

    That being said, I have done voluntary work in the past, and plan on doing more in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    I was using gay as a metaphor to describe the strong personal and professional relationship between Engels and karl. I was under the impression that Engels was English. They did work in England and something about that Nicodemus said when i blamed socialist communism on Germany, had me believe that socialism and communism was born in England. So naturaly i thought Engels was from England. I didn't know his first name was Frederich .

    I just read that Engels was a joly man who loved individuality. I wonder where he planned individuality to fit in socialism.
    Marx's ideas were (in a very crude synopsis):

    German Philosophy (Revisionist Hegelianism) + English classical economics (Ricardo, Smith et al) + French Socialism (Proudhon, although more specifically the Paris Commune, which was a short lived radical municipality)

    From Hegel Marx took the idea that there is first thesis, then antithesis, then new synthesis.

    From English classical economics ideas about economic crisis, boom and bust and the inevitability of the economy breaking down, Ricardo and all the classical economists believed that capitalism would perish one way or another and it was labelled the "dismal science" by its conservative critics, like the poet Southy.

    From French socialism the ideas of class struggle, the importance of ownership, technology (the means of production) and the ways of doing business (mode of production).

    Marx thought the history of the world was the history of class struggles and the final outcome of history would be the disappearence of class struggles altogether.

    The point of socialism IS individualism, all the promises of all philosophy or political ideologies, like individualism, have been the preserve of only a few, the ruling classes, bought by them at everyone else's expense. That is if they have existed at all.

    "socialism" itself just arose accidentally as a label for disaffection and disillusionment with "individualism".

    When individuals flocked to the cities for work during the industrial revolution, when the steam engines and agricultural revolution put them out of agarian work, they turned out to be lonely and impoverished. When the lable "individualism" was given to what they believed was the cause of it all they opted for "the opposite".

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    I read about political philosophies and they read like so many dead religions.

    These days liken my thinking to Don Quixote.

    Seasoned by Dante, Machavelli and Red Dwarf.
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    center-right moderate libertarian. I'm also a constructivist when it comes to IR.

    I think my political compass was something like 2,-2.

    I value pragmatism quite a bit.


    Taking a concept to it's logical end is rarely logical or relevant to the subject at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    I thought people who generally supported gay rights and marijuana were generally against gun rights.
    No. These issues really have nothing to do with one another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PocketFullOf View Post
    No. These issues really have nothing to do with one another.
    Yeah, they dont.

    I'm a pretty immoderate socialist, as I understand it, although I'm in favour of rights to bear arms and opposed to big government, I'm not in favour of either drug abuse or spreading homosexuality.

    Describing myself as a fiscal socialist and cultural conservative serves part of the time but its not that accurate since people associate that with being a neocon and I'm not a neo-conservative.

    I'm not entirely a fan of any sort of conservative label to be honest, including cultural conservatism, for a while I toyed with the idea of the label of cultural traditionalist but I'm not sure that's accurate either since in some ways I am very traditionalist and in others I am not, how traditions and traditionalism are constructured is an interesting question too, many are imagined rather than existing in fact and the here and now, inevitably, has as much of a shaping effect on the past as it does the future.
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    Says I am a American ''Liberal''. I am a Canadian Liberal as well

    Economic Left/Right: -3.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

    So according to their graph all leaders are Right wing Authoritarian? That just seems wrong to me.
    Don't like my modera... Oh wait, wrong forum. Carry on.

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    Social-Liberal (100%)
    Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton) (91%)
    Liberal (88%)
    American ''Liberal'' (84%)

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