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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    What Thomas Jefferson said:

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."
    Said the guy with a stable full of slaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    muaha. This!!! Exactly!
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    Karl was not a Marxist. He was not a gay, riva. He was married. He had three daughters, to whom he wrote lots of letters, all in French.

    We aspies like socialism. We are lazy, we do not want to be bothered with the dishes or laundry or cleaning or gardening. You do not need to be bothered in a socialist society. You do not need to cook, or do any S things at all. They do everything for you. Not because they love you, but because of dictates of socialism. All for one, one for all.
    Socialism gives you a good, happy, long life.

    The people in a commune have an averse side, though. They hate aspies.

    A commune is good. But the people who live there are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Karl was not a Marxist. He was not a gay, riva. He was married. He had three daughters, to whom he wrote lots of letters, all in French.

    We aspies like socialism. We are lazy, we do not want to be bothered with the dishes or laundry or cleaning or gardening. You do not need to be bothered in a socialist society. You do not need to cook, or do any S things at all. They do everything for you. Not because they love you, but because of dictates of socialism. All for one, one for all.
    Socialism gives you a good, happy, long life.

    The people in a commune have an averse side, though. They hate aspies.

    A commune is good. But the people who live there are bad.
    I was using gay as a metaphor to describe the strong personal and professional relationship between Engels and karl. I was under the impression that Engels was English. They did work in England and something about that Nicodemus said when i blamed socialist communism on Germany, had me believe that socialism and communism was born in England. So naturaly i thought Engels was from England. I didn't know his first name was Frederich .

    I just read that Engels was a joly man who loved individuality. I wonder where he planned individuality to fit in socialism.
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    According to the test I'm 100% an American Liberal. I best identify with social democrat, but my views do vary from issue to issue. I'm not really interested in toeing the line in one political camp or another. I try to think critically about each issue.
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    I'm a voluntaryist, which usually implies anarcho-capitalism, though fundamentally I don't care what form society takes as long as there is no force involved.

    Those quizzes seemed to have a left-wing bias in the way the questions were asked.

    Economic Left/Right: 4.25
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

    My results for the other test:
    Liberal 100% (I'm assuming it means classical liberal, aka libertarian)
    Social Liberal 82%
    Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton) 78%
    American "Liberal" 72%
    Social Democratic 64%
    Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher) 59%
    Anarcho-Communist 53%
    Liberal Socialist 49%
    Marxist 45% (what?!)
    American "Conservative" 45%
    Burkean (liberal) Conservative 41%
    Christian Democratic 37%
    Liberal Nationalist 37%
    Soviet "Communist" 30% (what?!)
    Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right) 15%
    Christian Socialist 12%
    Fascist 5% (what?!)
    National Socialist 0%

    I went "(what?!)" when the result was higher than I think it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosofree View Post
    I'm a voluntaryist,
    Oh, cool! What do you volunteer for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Oh, cool! What do you volunteer for?
    Lol

    I know you're joking, but for anyone not familiar with the term, voluntaryism is the belief that everything should be done voluntarily, that force should never be initiated to achieve goals, no matter what the consequences (self defense, responding to force with force, is perfectly okay).

    I said in my intro thread that I'm a nihilist, so I don't believe in the non-aggression principle like most voluntaryists, I just think that, in order for force to be used, adequate justification must be met - in other words, the one proposing that force be initiated should need to convince others of this, not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosofree View Post
    Lol

    I know you're joking, but for anyone not familiar with the term, voluntaryism is the belief that everything should be done voluntarily, that force should never be initiated to achieve goals, no matter what the consequences (self defense, responding to force with force, is perfectly okay).

    I said in my intro thread that I'm a nihilist, so I don't believe in the non-aggression principle like most voluntaryists, I just think that, in order for force to be used, adequate justification must be met - in other words, the one proposing that force be initiated should need to convince others of this, not the other way around.
    I actually was not kidding. If you believe in voluntaryism, then you must volunteer yourself. Otherwise, you would be a hypocrite.
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