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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaky View Post
    Oh no. This is certainly not an issue of race as much as it is an issue of culture and education. Such teenagers were not raised within the development of a positively nurturing environment and are often exposed to seeing such cruelty. With an addition to peer pressures of adhering to such a culture, it is no surprise that it is something they become accustomed to. In an indirect manner, being on a poorer end of a spectrum inclines the lives of such individuals to formulate in a surviving and striving manner therefore a more rough character is maintained through such. Perceptive and stereotypical bias is formed because of the lack of intellect grown in such also. So education is another key to solving such issues, where if the values are nurtured in the individual, they become more accustomed to greater knowledge, to which empathy is born through the abilities to alter perceptive viewpoints. The situation in the video was indeed an unfortunate insight into the values nurtured through the rougher areas of society but not into the race.
    Agreed. Of course race isn't the issue here, though it is immediately assumed to be the motive in incidents involving police whom are given the difficult task of maintaining law and order in these crime-ridden neighborhoods. The biggest problem is poverty and continually bringing children into that lifestyle who are likely to follow in the footsteps of their parents and peers.

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    Let’s Go Krogering: A Rorschach Test | Letter From The Editor | Memphis News and Events | Memphis Flyer

    Within a couple days, the MPD had rounded up 11 of the teens; some of whom had been turned in by their parents. The mayor and the police chief, both African Americans, held a press conference, denounced the incident, and pledged to arrest all involved. This calm and professional handling of the incident disappointed a lot of commenters, mainly, because the teens were not charged with a hate crime, which is difficult to prove and likely not applicable in this case. But apparently, for some folks, if someone you hate commits a crime, it's a hate crime. Case closed.
    And I learned something interesting about those "discussing" the incident on the Flyer website. After deleting more than 20 racist and/or vile Memphis-hating comments one evening, I decided to use our site technology to see where they came from. Seventeen of those comments came from out of town, and I don't mean Bartlett. People from Michigan, South Carolina, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and elsewhere were flooding the Flyer site with ignorant racist remarks and Memphis-bashing.

    It's a good example of how a discussion about how to deal with a local problem can be distorted by those with no real knowledge of the situation and no skin in the game — except a desperate need to promote their own sad hatred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    Within a couple days, the MPD had rounded up 11 of the teens; some of whom had been turned in by their parents. The mayor and the police chief, both African Americans, held a press conference, denounced the incident, and pledged to arrest all involved. This calm and professional handling of the incident disappointed a lot of commenters, mainly, because the teens were not charged with a hate crime, which is difficult to prove and likely not applicable in this case. But apparently, for some folks, if someone you hate commits a crime, it's a hate crime. Case closed.
    The police in Memphis aren't dealing with the city rioting and looting establishments either. It's easy to commend their handling of the situation in comparison to St. Louis when the circumstances are much less volatile. The last sentence perfectly describes the attitude regarding law-enforcement any time deadly force is utilized involving a black suspect and a white officer. As we saw two days later in Utah, the reverse is not true when a black officer shoots a white suspect.

    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    And I learned something interesting about those "discussing" the incident on the Flyer website. After deleting more than 20 racist and/or vile Memphis-hating comments one evening, I decided to use our site technology to see where they came from. Seventeen of those comments came from out of town, and I don't mean Bartlett. People from Michigan, South Carolina, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and elsewhere were flooding the Flyer site with ignorant racist remarks and Memphis-bashing. It's a good example of how a discussion about how to deal with a local problem can be distorted by those with no real knowledge of the situation and no skin in the game — except a desperate need to promote their own sad hatred.
    Interesting point of view. During the Ferguson/St. Louis incidents that were broadcasted daily for weeks on national news outlets, people from all over the country chimed in with their thoughts, most of whom had no affiliation with that city. I wonder if the author of this article had an issue with that. Probably not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet View Post


    Interesting point of view. During the Ferguson/St. Louis incidents that were broadcasted daily for weeks on national news outlets, people all over the country chimed in with their thoughts, most of whom had no affiliation with that city. I wonder if the author of this article had an issue with that. Probably not.
    yeah I don't know, the flyer is a local free paper. it's a really great paper, it's the thing you grab to figure out local events but it doesn't really cover anything outside of the city.
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    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

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