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    The first list came from Listverse, the second list came from Dr. Phil's site as quoted from an article written by FBI Special Agent Robert K. Ressler.

    It's not my desire to dump on you, but to explain to you that your point was not relevant to the OP; or if it was relevant, then I would like to know how.
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    I liked Cornwell's book. It was enlightening and interesting and well written.

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    What a coincidencd. I was going through the list of suspects of this particular case yesterday.

    Anyway, what fascinated me the most about this case was that the number of suspects the police interrogated and the overwhelming amount of potential killers among them. It's just shocking.

    Should i be glad thaf i didn't live in whitechapel during the 19th century of should i expect to learn that there are an overwhelming amount of serial killers living among us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Why not employ the same logic to that 99% figure as you did to the 70% figure? For example, even if it's true that 99% of serial killers started out torturing animals, what percentage of those kids who torture animals grow up to be serial killers? Let's say the percentage is 1%. How would that affect the result of the profiling?

    I'm sure you're right, there is a higher correlation between torturing and small killing animals as a child and growing up to be a serial killer, versus just having a rough childhood and then growing up to be a serial killer.

    However, if you stopped looking at these aspects through a microscope, you would see that profiling does not offset the chances of this versus the chances of that, but considers all of them together. Taking out most of the percentages, you have a list that looks more like this:
    Dr. Phil.com - Advice - Fourteen Characteristics of a Serial Killer
    1. Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.

    2. They tend to be intelligent, with IQ's in the "bright normal" range.

    3. They do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work as unskilled laborers.

    4. They tend to come from markedly unstable families.

    5. As children, they are abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers.

    6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories.

    7. They hate their fathers and mothers.

    8. They are commonly abused as children — psychologically, physically and sexually. Often the abuse is by a family member.

    9. Many serial killers spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems.

    10. They have high rates of suicide attempts.

    11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sado-masochistic pornography.

    12. More than 60 percent of serial killers wet their beds beyond the age of 12.

    13. Many serial killers are fascinated with fire starting.

    14. They are involved with sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures.
    Source: Internal Association of Forensic Science, an article written by FBI Special Agent Robert K. Ressler
    "The Serial Killer," Harold Schechter

    Now let's cherry pick and examine characteristic #1 . While it may be true that 90% of all serial killers are male, the chances of a male growing up to be a serial killer are extremely tiny. Even if you take all fourteen factors into consideration, the chances may still be fairly small. But if you're profiling someone who may potentially be a serial killer, those chances matter not one whit. What matters is the percentage of those fourteen characteristics that are held by the suspected serial killer.
    By those standards, I would be a serial killer. I am an outlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    By those standards, I would be a serial killer. I am an outlier.
    The checklist isn't used to prove that anybody is a serial killer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    The checklist isn't used to prove that anybody is a serial killer.
    Good, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    What a coincidencd. I was going through the list of suspects of this particular case yesterday.

    Anyway, what fascinated me the most about this case was that the number of suspects the police interrogated and the overwhelming amount of potential killers among them. It's just shocking.

    Should i be glad thaf i didn't live in whitechapel during the 19th century of should i expect to learn that there are an overwhelming amount of serial killers living among us?
    Am i the only one shocked by this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    Am i the only one shocked by this?
    #NotShockedintheUSA
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