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    If you're going for a pejorative, try 'pigs' instead. Because that one is actually a pejorative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    This is nothing but ad hominem. Rather than attacking the argument, you attack the credibility of the people making the argument. This is what people do when they don't have a rebuttal, personal attacks. There is absolutely nothing of substance in your post, just as there is nothing of substance in all of your racist, anti-Muslim posts.
    Please, Islam teaches that it is not a religion of race. Islam teaches it is a religion of all races.

    And as Islam makes crystal clear in the Islamic State, Convert, or die. And just to make the point, just a few hours ago, Islam slaughtered 80 who refused to convert, and the wives and daughters of the slaughtered were taken as sex slaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    It has been my experience (both IRL and online) that most police officers (and sheriffs deputies, and constables, and state troopers, etc.) frequently refer to themselves and each other as cops.
    Please, police are just as much influenced by popular culture as anybody else, otherwise they could not do their job. And as a narcissistic popular culture speaks about its superego, the police, in pejorative terms, popular culture also speaks about its sexuality, the id, in pejorative terms.

    Why would the police be any different?

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    You scared? hehe. Nothing to hide = nothing to fear. I've had long repeated conversations with police and soldiers and they get pumped with fear themselves. They tell soldiers to fear the Chinese and Russians and they tell the police to fear a collapse which is long overdue. 'The civilizans you will encounter are not the law abiding good folk we know in our day to day lives and the time will come where you need to protect your city from civil unrest'. Some conversations man...

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    Americans are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist. The police are supposedly trying to protect us, yet they're racking up a body count that makes Al Qaeda envious. Great job cops!

    You're Eight Times More Likely to be Killed by a Police Officer than a Terrorist | Cato @ Liberty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Please, Islam teaches that it is not a religion of race. Islam teaches it is a religion of all races.
    That makes Islam not racist. It doesn't say anything about you. This is all I will say on the subject. If you want to rant about Muslims some more (and I'm sure you do), take it to another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Please, police are just as much influenced by popular culture as anybody else, otherwise they could not do their job. And as a narcissistic popular culture speaks about its superego, the police, in pejorative terms, popular culture also speaks about its sexuality, the id, in pejorative terms.

    Why would the police be any different?
    This is nonsense. Calling a police officer a "cop" may have been an insult in the past, but it's not in 2014 in the US. Deal with it.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Americans are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist. The police are supposedly trying to protect us, yet they're racking up a body count that makes Al Qaeda envious. Great job cops!

    You're Eight Times More Likely to be Killed by a Police Officer than a Terrorist | Cato @ Liberty
    Like a fart, the smelly framework of your rhetorical post will dissipate if you as much as blow on it. Please, to grant your post any weight and substance, go through the following steps:

    1. Where is the data from?
    2. Which statistical methods were used?
    3. Put the numbers into their proper context:
      a) How likely are you to be killed by a violent criminal?
      b) How do you measure against other Western nations?
    4. Does the source have an agenda which makes spinning of the numbers more likely?

    As it reads now it's nothing but hot, sensationalist air. What if I told you that you are ~1740 times more likely to die from a medical mistake in the US than a terrorist attack? The medical professionals are supposedly trying to heal us, but they're racking up a body count that makes Al Qaeda envious!
    ‘Many novelties have come from America. The most startling of these, a thing without precedent, is a mass of undignified poor. They do not love one another because they do not love themselves.’

    ‘And we will have made great strides in equality,
    when few have too much and fewer too little.’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Please, police are just as much influenced by popular culture as anybody else, otherwise they could not do their job. And as a narcissistic popular culture speaks about its superego, the police, in pejorative terms, popular culture also speaks about its sexuality, the id, in pejorative terms.

    Why would the police be any different?
    So if 'cop' were a pejorative term--since the term's disseminated by pop culture, and has become a neutral term and so commonplace to the point where cops themselves think it's okay, then it's no longer a pejorative by definition.

    So if 'cop' was ever a pejorative term, well.. now it's not. Words change meaning and connotation over time. Language evolves. Here:
    NICE
    Derived from the Latin nescius meaning “ignorant”, the word began life in the 14th century as a term for “foolish” or “silly”.
    When we use the word 'nice,' do we give a damn about what it used to mean? No. No, we don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    Like a fart, the smelly framework of your rhetorical post will dissipate if you as much as blow on it. Please, to grant your post any weight and substance, go through the following steps:
    I guess I struck a nerve.

    [LIST=1][*]Where is the data from?
    Interesting question. There actually isn't much good, hard data because police departments aren't required to publish data on people they shoot, so they don't (so much for government transparency). The FBI has some numbers, but they are far from comprehensive. According to this link, there were 393 justified homicides by police in 2011. Who knows how many unjustifiable homicides were committed by the police in 2011. Probably 0 because the police virtually always find their use of deadly force as justifiable.

    I really like how the link above says the police killed 393 "felons". I guess the police get to automatically label everyone they kill as a felon, sort of like how our government labels every Middle Easterner it kills a "terrorist", even the children.

    I assume the people who compiled the data looked at crime reports like the one I linked above and totaled everything up. I'm sure that's not good enough for you.

    Keep in mind this data does not include the obscene number of dogs and other family pets that the police have killed. It also doesn't include things like toddlers being burned by grenades the police tossed into their cribs.

    [*]Which statistical methods were used?
    Deaths per 100,000, like all other death statistics. It's simple math, something a 6th grader could do.

    [*]Put the numbers into their proper context:
    a) How likely are you to be killed by a violent criminal?
    Are you asking about the probability of being murdered at all? Or being murdered by a stranger with a violent criminal history? I ask because most people are murdered by someone they know, not a stranger with a violent criminal history, at least according to the FBI. Check out this link.

    b) How do you measure against other Western nations?
    I don't know. In Britain the cops don't have guns, so I'm guessing the number of people shot by police every year would be pretty close to 0.

    [*]Does the source have an agenda which makes spinning of the numbers more likely?
    The link is from the libertarian Cato Institute. They aren't exactly bleeding heart liberals, but they're against wasting trillions in pointless foreign wars and against wasting billions on the drug war. So your conclusions will be that they're clearly idiots with an agenda to make the police look bad.

    As it reads now it's nothing but hot, sensationalist air. What if I told you that you are ~1740 times more likely to die from a medical mistake in the US than a terrorist attack? The medical professionals are supposedly trying to heal us, but they're racking up a body count that makes Al Qaeda envious!
    There's a process in place to make the healthcare industry responsible for the mistakes it makes (the healthcare industry doesn't get to investigate itself). The process where cops supposedly pay for their mistakes is corrupt. The police investigate themselves and, remarkably, they virtually always find the shootings justified.

    If everyone was allowed to judge themselves, everyone would have been a straight-A student and no one would ever be convicted of any crime, ever. Yet we allow the police to investigate themselves, and people like Adam are offended when people speak out on this issue. You gotta love authoritarians.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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