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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I always trust a source someone doesn't recall who claims to have some profound insight that nobody can disprove.
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    The Weapon That Ukraine Says Shot Down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    A source I don't recall agrees with you
    It was probably RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    I don't get it. Why didn't this airline and every other airline change flight paths and avoid war torn/unstable areas?
    From the news I've been hearing, the FAA advised American flights to avoid the region and the British did the same. I guess the Malaysians didn't get the memo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrderOfTheCaelifera View Post
    So it was a missile? REALLY!?!? Well, I heard from a source I don't remember that it was a kid with a bb gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    Find a new source. The maximum range of a modern Buk missile is 25 kilometers, with a maximum engagement speed of Mach 4. Perhaps he was thinking of man-portable missile systems?
    Vertical? I had the same thought as Rasofy. It's very unlikely anyone could accurately coordinate a strike form the ground to 11km on an object moving that fast. By the time the missile got up there, the plane would already have moved nearly the same distance (you have to take into account deceleration, any hit would be at a way lower speed than Mach 4).

    However, I do think a ground missile strike was what took the plane down. You have to ask yourself why the Russians (or anyone for that matter) would shoot down a passenger jet on purpose. I know it is a possibility as when i was flying to Istanbul from Singapore last month, the flight path was deliberately diverted to the north to avoid Iraqi airspace. Obviously it is possible for aircraft to be hit by missiles at that altitude.

    Very, very unlucky.

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    I wonder who will be the first to blame this one on Muslim extremists.
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    I wonder who will be the first to blame this one on Muslim extremists.
    That's a cheap shot. There aren't even any Muslims in the area; you are getting mixed up with Chechnya.

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    This is such sad horrible news .

    Don't know who did this but this war was initially started by the russian government, so i hope they get the blame for this. Assholes!

    This war is sending a message to the whole world that two considerably large ethnicities can't live together. Fuck the russian government for initiating this terrible war!

    Anyway could an air strike be this irresponsible? (This is assuming it is indeed an air strike.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Oh god, this is beyond horrible.

    Fucking Putin! I hope he gets the blame he deserves for this.

    And I know it's probably pretty insensitive to say it, but this must be a nightmare for Malaysian Airlines.
    It has nothing to do with Putin.

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