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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    According to Wikipedia:



    This sure sounds like Canada sent troops.
    Yes, I know it sounds like that. Your quote from Wikipedia is just an expanded version of what my post said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung View Post
    Well, not really. The Canadians who did fight in the Vietnam war weren't "sent" by Canada, they were volunteers. Canada was officially non-belligerent. And the limited amount of soldiers who WERE sent to Vietnam from 73-75, weren't sent to fight in the war, they were there to help enforce the Paris Peace accords.
    Ann Coulter framed the issue as: You used to be our best allies. You sent troops to Vietnam to help us win the war, why not Iraq? Do you think Iraq is less stable than the Vietnam war?

    So YES, we did send people over once Peace was in the works, but we didn't fight in the war as a country (even if some Canadians volunteered). We just sent peacekeepers to help supervise the Peace Accord, we weren't aligning ourselves against anyone, nor were we allying ourselves with the US in the conflict.

    That's her problem, she's not very tightly bound to facts, so she has much more flexibility in her arguments. She just vaguely remembers something something Vietnam...but shoots her mouth off anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    According to Wikipedia:



    This sure sounds like Canada sent troops.
    She was being disingenuous. Her modus operandi: come up with a conclusion first, then find facts and state them in a way, to support her conclusion.

    Her conclusion: Canada was USA's ally in the Vietnam War, unlike in recent times, like Iraq.
    Facts she used: Canada sent troops to Vietnam.
    Facts she disregarded: Canada disagreed with USA on the Vietnam war, just like they did, her other comparison, the Iraq war. They sent troops, not in support of the USA, but as part of the peace effort.
    How she presented the facts: cherry-picking those that can be skewed to support her conclusion, while willfully leaving out relevant context surrounding those facts.

    That clever, she is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever_Jung
    That's her problem, she's not very tightly bound to facts, so she has much more flexibility in her arguments. She just vaguely remembers something something Vietnam...but shoots her mouth off anyway.
    In other words, she was factually correct so it wasn't a false claim, but her interpretations as to Canada's motives were in error. Thanks for the clarification. I wouldn't have made the same conclusions either (about Canada being an ally).

    Quote Originally Posted by Qre:us
    Facts she disregarded: Canada disagreed with USA on the Vietnam war, just like they did, her other comparison, the Iraq war. They sent troops, not in support of the USA, but as part of the peace effort.
    How she presented the facts: cherry-picking those that can be skewed to support her conclusion, while willfully leaving out relevant context surrounding those facts.
    I tend to agree with this assessment, but I'm not sure she was given much time to provide any context. Furthermore, the interviewer was wrong about Canada sending troops.
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