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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    I am a dude... and I think we would still find breasts attractive.
    I often find womens' hair attractive. It has yet to turn into a single conflict. I imagine the same could be said of womens' breasts if they were allowed to be topless.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpankyMcFly View Post
    Reasonable indeed.
    Is it reasonable? It seems entirely pointless. Why designate specifis times or places when a woman can be topless? I don't understand the function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I often find womens' hair attractive. It has yet to turn into a single conflict. I imagine the same could be said of womens' breasts if they were allowed to be topless.

    Is it reasonable? It seems entirely pointless. Why designate specifics times or places when a woman can be topless? I don't understand the function.
    FTR I am all for complete freedom from day 1 of freeing the nipple . I am a realist/pragmatic though and realize that trad-cons are gonna have to do this in baby steps.
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    Can a guy actually get arrested for showing up without a shirt to say... I dunno, a funeral?
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    eta: this article
    so...apparently it is legal ??

    The state’s highest court ruled
    more than two decades ago that baring one’s chest in public — for noncommercial activity — is perfectly legal for a woman, as it is for a man.



    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/16/ny...less.html?_r=0

    another article
    The Social and Legal Arguments for Allowing Women to Go Topless in Public - Jessica Blankenship - The Atlantic




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    Quote Originally Posted by solipsists View Post
    Cultural concealment of the female form definitely correlates with patriarchal oppression. I imagine a society must ease from one norm to another to minimize damages; even if public toplessness were legalized today I couldn't recommend it without proper precautions. With the female form exalted as it is by media, and media being the primary tool for manipulation of US values, I assume an adjustment period would be necessary; taboos aren't erased overnight.

    So, in short, I agree, with a dash of cynicism and wariness.
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    When people who want this (freedom of the nipple) convince enough women who don't want this then there be real change. Just like women's suffrage, where most of the ardent opponents of it were women http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suffragism OR Anti-Suffragists Believed Women Didn’t Need the Right to Vote | Women Warriors and Wayfarers and once they (women) were united, 100 male senators unanimously agreed on the 19th amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solipsists View Post
    Cultural concealment of the female form definitely correlates with patriarchal oppression. I imagine a society must ease from one norm to another to minimize damages; even if public toplessness were legalized today I couldn't recommend it without proper precautions. With the female form exalted as it is by media, and media being the primary tool for manipulation of US values, I assume an adjustment period would be necessary; taboos aren't erased overnight.
    Extreme exposure of the female form often correlates with patriarchal exploitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Extreme exposure of the female form often correlates with patriarchal exploitation.
    Agreed. Taboo gives nudity allure though. Normalization seems like it would neutralize the power of extreme exposure, drawing both conservative and shock values closer to the center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solipsists View Post
    Agreed. Taboo gives nudity allure though. Normalization seems like it would neutralize the power of extreme exposure, drawing both conservative and shock values closer to the center.
    Agreed, though we have seen taboos about covering up in some circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I often find womens' hair attractive. It has yet to turn into a single conflict. I imagine the same could be said of womens' breasts if they were allowed to be topless.

    Is it reasonable? It seems entirely pointless. Why designate specifis times or places when a woman can be topless? I don't understand the function.
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    Would it be OK for men to oogle women's breasts then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Human societies seem to have a habit of covering their genitals. One doesn't see the same behaviour in animals. So does this have something to with shame and animals don't feel shame?

    Why cover genitals?

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