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    Thank you US for fucking up the world one more time. US state has long become a puppet for corporate interests and treats its people as employees.

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    People are so in denial over how incompetent this president is. Iraq was won (according to Biden) and Obama screwed it up. Not assigning blame means you don't want to understand how we got to this point. We're here because we left prematurely because that's what Obama wanted.
    Senator Rand Paul is alive because of modern medicine and because his attacker punches like a girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    The State of Iraq As We Know It Is Gone
    And I should care because?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    And I should care because?
    Because you are a good christian and a US citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Because you are a good christian and a US citizen.
    I'm a Christian, I never said anything about being a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    I'm a Christian, I never said anything about being a good one.
    It defeats the purpose of believing in a creator and spirituality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    It defeats the purpose of believing in a creator and spirituality.
    Cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Gen. Michael Hayden: 'The State of Iraq As We Know It Is Gone'

    Iraq has been split into three separate tribal units, and there's no turning back. The US under the Obama administration made some bad decisions three years ago which have left the state of Iraq where it is today.

    The US wants to give humanitarian aid to parts of this region. What for? To fuck it all up again?
    The state of Iraq never existed.

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    Maybe this was the plan all along; to break up the country? (Assuming they are going to split.) And why not split a nation into three states? I see more benefits to usa or other superpowers if iraq is split than if it stays united especially considering it's a nation in the middle east.

    Usa or other superpowers could buy the loyalty of atleast one of those nations and hope for the best that more ethnic (ironic because they are all muslims) violence continues and racial and economic tensions continue between those three nations so that they could sell arms. There are probably other benefits other than weapons sales which i am not trained to see.

    Calm down usa this is good news.

    Quote Originally Posted by yeghor View Post
    Thank you US for fucking up the world one more time. US state has long become a puppet for corporate interests and treats its people as employees.
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    I can't believe i am the first to say this on the forum and i am sure many iraqis are saying this:

    'I wish saddam hussein was still in power.'

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    And I should care because?
    You shouldn't care if you were against the war in iraq but if you were for it you should feel 'a little' bit guilty i suppose.

    I was for the invasion of afghanistan and still for it. Usa invading that country seems like a blessing in disguise for its people; especially the women. However i don't know if the people of iraq are for it. So i am being rather presumptuous in thinking it is for the best.

    Iraq however compared to afghanistan was doing much much better. But now there is this thanks to usa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    Maybe this was the plan all along; to break up the country? (Assuming they are going to split.) And why not split a nation into three states? I see more benefits to usa or other superpowers if iraq is split than if it stays united especially considering it's a nation in the middle east.

    Usa or other superpowers could buy the loyalty of atleast one of those nations and hope for the best that more ethnic (ironic because they are all muslims) violence continues and racial and economic tensions continue between those three nations so that they could sell arms. There are probably other benefits other than weapons sales which i am not trained to see.

    Calm down usa this is good news.

    +1

    I can't believe i am the first to say this on the forum and i am sure many iraqis are saying this:

    'I wish saddam hussein was still in power.'

    You shouldn't care if you were against the war in iraq but if you were for it you should feel 'a little' bit guilty i suppose.

    I was for the invasion of afghanistan and still for it. Usa invading that country seems like a blessing in disguise for its people; especially the women. However i don't know if the people of iraq are for it. So i am being rather presumptuous in thinking it is for the best.

    Iraq however compared to afghanistan was doing much much better. But now there is this thanks to usa.
    Major powers planning to partition Iraq into smaller states and establishing a (satellite) kurdish state in the region so as to gain control of oil resources has been a hot topic of debate in my country since the 90s. So this has been a long-term plan in action. And yeah, it is always done in the name of liberation or freedom or those kinds of shiny words.

    Who is behind the radical islamist jihadists in the region (who have been fighting against the Syrian Assad regime side by side with other factions that I do not know) and how have they been allowed to go deep into Iraq unchecked, that I do not know.

    Edit: This of course may also be a ploy to force the hand of Iraqi regime to capitulate to external demands.

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