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    @Lateralus. What did you cook for dinner anyways? You're leaving us hanging!

    Do you always let these kinds of interactive opportunities escape?

    Perhaps next time you could make some lemonade, i.e. Give the person the following look

    Clockwork.jpg


    Then slowly, very slowly, say:

    Why..... yes..... I am.....

    Then break out the creepiest smile you can muster.

    Be sure to take a mental photograph of the person's reaction as well as any nearby onlooker's. Enjoy at your leisure.

    That'll teach em
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Not possible. All people are different. What one woman sees as totally acceptable social interaction, another sees as a threat. This makes it impossible for men to know where the boundaries are. Some men are like Disco Biscuit and have a "fuck you" attitude. My approach is to just avoid interacting with female strangers unless I have a specific reason (like she's working at the checkout register at a grocery store). I'd rather avoid the unpleasantness of being viewed as "creepy", so I avoid even eye contact (you never know how someone will interpret a glance).
    That's actually been my issue with women. Granted, I've been told I'm as intimidating as a cupcake, but with all these things going on it's hard for me to wonder what I can do to put the females around me at ease.

    Right now I just smile, say a friendly hello, and quietly ponder if I come off as the sort of creep that needs to be zapped
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post
    That's actually been my issue with women. Granted, I've been told I'm as intimidating as a cupcake, but with all these things going on it's hard for me to wonder what I can do to put the females around me at ease.

    Right now I just smile, say a friendly hello, and quietly ponder if I come off as the sort of creep that needs to be zapped
    I forget how this saying goes exactly, but there's a saying that's something along the lines of: The only difference between charming and creepy is whether or not the person likes you. So really it's just a matter of being able to tell whether the girl actually WANTS to be talking to you, reading her body language to see if she's uncomfortable, etc. Stuff that some can read instinctively, and others can't.

    This is why the creepiest guys are the ones that continue to come on strong even after the girl has shown OBVIOUS signs of disinterest -- even to the point of "i'm not interested, thanks" -- perhaps because they think the girl is playing hard to get, and perhaps because they feel entitled to her.

    Edit: If you're "as intimidating as a cupcake", and you follow basic rules like "don't stare" and "don't stand super close to people when you talk to them", then you're probably good with the grocery store scenario!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qloshae View Post
    Moving this more on topic tho, do you happen to live in the US? Because from what I've understood, the US is far far far behind in equality on both sides. I don't think many in Sweden would be shocked about a man cooking... tho maybe surprised if a woman was fixing the car (a bit ironic that we are more open to men doing what women stereotypically do, but are astonished when a woman does what a man stereotypically does). Tho that I suppose is part of the aggressive feminism in Sweden, "men should try doing what women do, but women shouldn't get their hands dirty". The Swedish feminism is bound to get a major reaction sooner or later (demanding a lot from men, but nothing from women).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hive View Post
    Do you live in Sweden?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qloshae View Post
    Yes.
    Damn, how do you cope with the feminism and bitchy women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kullervo View Post
    Damn, how do you cope with the feminism and bitchy women?
    I wouldn't call it "bitchy", I'd call it "self-important" as shown by a neglect for others.
    I tend to stay away from them; or rather, they stay away from me after being pissed because I treat them like equals and not superiors.
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    Rape is wrong.
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    I posted this (an abbreviated version) about 20 pages ago but I'd like to re-inject it into the conversation as no one, who supports "rape culture" has yet to address it directly.

    RAINN ~ Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "is an American anti-sexual assault organization, the largest in the United States. RAINN operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline and carries out programs to prevent sexual assault, help victims, and to ensure that rapists are brought to justice. https://www.rainn.org/

    RAINN recently sent a letter to:

    White House Task Force to
    Protect Students from Sexual Assault
    United States Department of Justice
    Office on Violence Against Women

    In this letter they discussed their recommendations and specifically addressed "rape culture" (page 2 link at the bottom), among many other topics.

    Perpetrators of Campus Sexual Assault: What We Know

    "In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime."


    While that may seem an obvious point, it has tended to get lost in recent debates. This has led to an inclination to focus on particular segments of the student population (e.g.,athletes), particular aspects of campus culture (e.g.,the Greek system), or traits that are common in many millions of law - abiding Americans (e.g., “masculinity”), rather than on the subpopulation at fault: those who choose to commit rape. This trend has the paradoxical effect of making it harder to stop sexual violence, since it removes the focus from the individual at fault, and seemingly mitigates personal responsibility for his or her own actions.

    By the time they reach college, most students have been exposed to 18 years of prevention messages, in one form or another. Thanks to repeated messages from parents, religious leaders, teachers, coaches, the media and, yes, the culture at large , the overwhelming majority of these young adults have learned right from wrong, and enter college knowing that rape falls squarely in the latter category.

    They later discuss (page 3)

    "Perhaps counter - intuitively, we recommend not focusing prevention messaging towards potential perpetrators (with one exception, described below). Importantly, research has shown that prevention efforts that focus solely on men and “redefining masculinity,” as some programs have termed it, are unlikely to be effective. As Dr. Lisak has noted, vii we can benefit from decades’ of sex offender treatment work, which supports that it is all but impossible to reprogram a serial offender with a simple prevention message."

    You can find the whole letter here: https://rainn.org/images/03-2014/WH-...mendations.pdf
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    Honestly, that seems to be in complete opposition to what we know is happening in the Middle East. Does that mean that the culture there has nothing to do with the fact that they use rape as an acceptable fear tactic on women to keep them under their control? Are those truly just all isolated individuals? And are there just that many rapists there?

    I honestly do think that accepted objectification in a society has a big part to play in this.(Hell, I even see this in the sloppy socialisation of animals as an animal behaviourist - if you teach your pet that your hand is an object to be played with, and refuse to establish proper boundaries when they're young, don't be surprised when your puppy or kitten turns out they maul your hands or ankles when it's an adult. Not to mention that animals socialised with their prey animal from a young age will regard it -and its species - as family instead of an object to catch and feast on )

    Granted, there will *always* be individuals within that society that will commit those crimes - those we can only stop by apprehending them so they're not the focus of the debate in that way. Doesn't mean they don't count though, but it seems that this information might be mostly based on these type of offenders?

    But, i'll leave this to Ti-users to fully analyse and respond to this one
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