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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Oh yeah, the patriotism was another thing he took issue with. Whatever. There's lots of problems with this country duh but it's different to point things out from the inside than from the outside.

    That song is not patriotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    That song is not patriotic.
    Ha - I was using it as an example of criticism from within vs outside...
    Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Ha - I was using it as an example of criticism from within vs outside...
    Ooh, of course.

    Guh sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    Ooh, of course.

    Guh sorry.
    no worries friend

    Anyway to me, that is part of loving your country: calling attention to things that you perceive to be bad or wrong with it, evoking change, making things better.
    Your kisses, sweeter than honey. But guess what, so is my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Jullie Amerikanen zijn allemaal vet lui dom varkens. I fart in uw algemene richting!



    That can be blamed on American exports?

    People hate to love us and love to hate us. We give them what they want, so we can be ridiculed.
    Jullie Amerikanen zijn allemaal vette, luie en domme varkens. Ik laat een scheet in uw algemene richting. *

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    I know a lot of Americans are afraid of socialism because it means helping those who are worse off. I also know that they are forced to pay an INSANE amount of money just to get education and health care. A lot of people here generalize all Americans as being stupid and fat, such generalizations bother me. A lot of young people here romanticize America quite a bit, they wish to move there, must be all the movies... I would never ever want to move outside of Scandinavia. America is a beautiful country in a lot of ways, but American politics and mentality is cruel. Besides, if there's another world war, America will most definitely be involved... Scandinavia won't. Less chance of me dying all things considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Yeah but other countries are catching up with the obesity at an alarming rate.

    I can't say that the religiosity is necessarily a bad thing though.
    This obesity thing that the other countries are catching up onto is just one part of this whole americalization of the world.
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    What do I think of Americans?

    Unfortunately other people have covered what immediately springs to mind

    I think it's worth pointing out that in practice there is no such thing as an American anymore, and hasn't been for at least half a century, maybe more. America has many nations living in one country, and having a passport and waving the flag doesn't mean your blood is tied with the country's founding culture and principles. From their appearance it seems like the people in America have blood from here, there and everywhere. Strange country.

    Another thing that irritates me about them is how they are so obnoxiously loud, and are oblivious as to how affronting other people find this. At a restaurant you can hear the entire conversation an American couple might be having more than the person sitting next to you. The stereotypical American is definitely an ESTJ.

    The third qualm i have is ignorance. Americans are, on average, the most ignorant people I have ever met from a supposedly first world country. I am not just talking about their cultural sophistication or better put lack of it, but just general knowledge of any given subject. I feel sorry for the few people who do have something between their ears in that country, it must be a nightmare for them...

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    I am Australian (Not EU but still) and I really have nothing against Americans, so no I would never say that there is something wrong with it, just a few things I could nitpick but no
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    I'm not Dutch, I'm Italian, but still I'm european thus I think I can give my contribution to this thread.

    Things I love about americans:
    - Their optimism
    - Their drive
    - Their love of freedom and YOLO attitude, even when they get older
    - Their loudness, boisterousness and sense of humor

    Things I don't understand about americans:
    - Their fucked up healthcare system
    - Why are there so many obese people

    Things I don't like about americans:
    - The social isolation many people seem to experience
    - The strong competitiveness of the society
    - The general attitude that "poor people deserved it"
    - The enormous cost of education

    In short, it may be argued that I like everything americans have that's similar to my own culture, and dislike what's different. I guess it's similar for Dutch people.

    Would I live in the US? If I had a well paying job with health insurance, preferably on the west coast, sure. In any other case, no, but I wouldn't even get a permit so case closed.
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