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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    If the 'founding fathers' had failed in their violent attack on lawful authority, they would have been hung, and only remembered as criminals.

    But successful crime is no crime at all.
    "Lawful authority"

    Someone forgot that people were forced into some place for being criminals, anyhow.

    So why does your country still fly the jack up high when they looked at you with such disdain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Please define exactly what you mean by "gun pornography" - in other words, what specific kinds of pictures you would prefer not to see here.
    What a sensible question. And what a sensible Coriolis.

    It is a similar question to, what is sexual pornography. Courts have been asking this question for some time. And it is a difficult question to answer.

    Perhaps we can start by saying that the purpose of pornography is visceral arousal.

    And it seems to me that some pictures of gunmen and women are designed for visceral arousal.

    On another tack, pornography only shows half the picture. Sexual pornography doesn't show birth, or the results of sexually transmitted disease, or the fact that men buy the bodies of women, or that pornography is the graphic depiction of the brothel, or that some pornography is the result of human trafficking.

    In the same way, gun pornography only shows half the picture. Gun pornography only shows pictures of beautiful guns and does not show the physical, psychological and social effects of gunshot wounds.

    In short, both sexual and gun pornography, not only excite visceral arousal, but they have no integrity at all in that they only show half the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    So why does your country still fly the jack up high when they looked at you with such disdain?
    C'mon, we loved the British Empire.

    When WW II ended we voluntarily gave Britain one billion dollars without any strings attached.

    The Americans by contrast made Britain pay off war debts right up to the present day.

    And America cut the throat of the British Empire at Suez by threatening to crash the British pound.

    And these same sweet Americans destroyed our fledgeling movies industry by the same technique of threatening to crash the Australian dollar.

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    Almost 20 years later, and he's still bitter about that bloody outrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    Aussies prefer knives:
    The movie, Crocodile Dundee, was made to entertain an American audience.

    Americans have shown for some time that they are not interested in Australia or Australians, but they will pay big money to be entertained by false stereotypes.

    In fact Australia is one of the most urban countries in the world. We excell in good government, and we are excellent in bureaucracy. We are the opposite of Crocodile Dundee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    I have said this before: the issues with guns and violence in the US will not be fixed by laws. It is a cultural problem, and one that can't be changed. If it can be, it won't until next century at least.
    Americans are a highly energetic and idealistic people, and when they put their collective mind to something nothing can stop them.

    Change appears very slow at first but then it gathers pace and seems to happen over night.

    I suggest you get behind Meryl Streep, your great actor, and support her in her bid for gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Americans are a highly energetic and idealistic people, and when they put their collective mind to something nothing can stop them.

    Change appears very slow at first but then it gathers pace and seems to happen over night.

    I suggest you get behind Meryl Streep, your great actor, and support her in her bid for gun control.
    Gun issues is near the bottom of my list of issues I care about or feel are important. I have my opinions on it, but at the end of the day, I am mostly apathetic, for the reasons that you just quoted. I focus my energies elsewhere where I think I'll be of use, make progress, and be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Americans have shown for some time that they are not interested in Australia or Australians
    You're right, we don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    You're right, we don't care.
    This gives us a kind of freedom.

    Distance also gives us a kind of freedom. Alas the Canadians can only be as Canadian as possible under the circumstances.

    We are free from Revolution. We are free from Slavery. We are free from Civil War. We are relatively free from bourgeois control. And we are free from guns.

    Australia Felix.

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    And we still don't care.

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