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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    Provocation, of course.
    Ha. No. That's not my game that's yours as you stated at the beginning of the thread. When I post I'm trying to make a point. You might not like the point or think it's a stupid point, but that doesn't change my intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    It's kind of what this nation was founded on. There's a reason that gun ownership is the SECOND amendment. That's a silver medal.
    And New York was founded by the Dutch... Things are as important as you think them.

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    Ha, and do tell,what is this BIG thing that's going to happen?
    I have no idea. Hopefully it kills all the rednecks first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Ha. No. That's not my game that's yours as you stated at the beginning of the thread. When I post I'm trying to make a point. You might not like the point or think it's a stupid point, but that doesn't change my intentions.
    What were your respective points, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I have no idea. Hopefully it kills all the rednecks first.
    Wow. Racist much?

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    What were your respective points, then?
    On further reflection I was attempting to both provoke and make a point in this thread as the images weren't necessary. In the other thread I was just trying to make the point that maybe just maybe the winner didn't win on merit. I know that's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    It's kind of what this nation was founded on. There's a reason that gun ownership is the SECOND amendment. That's a silver medal.

    Ha, and do tell,what is this BIG thing that's going to happen?
    "One ring to rule them all"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Wow. Racist much?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    On further reflection I was attempting to both provoke and make a point in this thread as the images weren't necessary. In the other thread I was just trying to make the point that maybe just maybe the winner didn't win on merit. I know that's crazy.
    Undoubtedly, he did not win on musical merit alone, although he can sing. The Eurovision Song Contest has very little to do with good music. Did you see the other participants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    And New York was founded by the Dutch... Things are as important as you think them.

    I have no idea. Hopefully it kills all the rednecks first.
    Aaand the British founded the American colonies. Then we booted their asses out. Just like Britain seized control of New York, and we booted their asses out. And unified this country. Strawman argument anyway.

    Kill all the rednecks? Why ya so mad, bro? (I'm a redneck, btw)

    Quote Originally Posted by phobik View Post
    "One ring to rule them all"

    Oh snap! guns are going to cause a nuclear bomb? or uh, mount doom to erupt? shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    It's kind of what this nation was founded on. There's a reason that gun ownership is the SECOND amendment. That's a silver medal.

    Ha, and do tell,what is this BIG thing that's going to happen?
    And if it was the seventh amendment, would the country's founding be any different? The context of the founding and today's world are so far removed from each that we may as well consider them different entities that just happened to occupy the same place.

    Is it sound to continue the status quo without a realistic look at what has changed versus pointing to the fact that it has always been thus and evermore thus?

    It is perhaps more accurate to say that it is comfortable to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    And if it was the seventh amendment, would the country's founding be any different? The context of the founding and today's world are so far removed from each that we may as well consider them different entities that just happened to occupy the same place.

    Is it sound to continue the status quo without a realistic look at what has changed versus pointing to the fact that it has always been thus and evermore thus?

    It is perhaps more accurate to say that it is comfortable to do so.
    My point was that it was pretty important to the founding fathers, and I think their philosophy was less based on current events, and more on universal truths about societies and governments.

    "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    "A free people ought to be armed."
    - George Washington

    These aren't "for the time being" statements. This still holds true. Hitler said that to subjugate a people, you must first disarm them. He was right.

    And what has changed? What is it about guns that bother you so much? The United States doesn't even rank in the top 100 countries for murders per capita. And if someone is hell bent on murdering as many innocent people as possible, they'll find a way. Timothy McVeigh, or any number of catastrophic terrorist acts. There's TONS more examples all around the world, not a single gun used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    Before I can continue this discussion, I need to be clear on what gun pornography is. Is this it?

    No, that's a missile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beorn View Post
    Well, it's a silly premise to begin with as there is nothing hypocritical about owning a gun and relying on the police.
    It's funny how you never hear people calling fire extinguisher owners hypocritical for calling the fire department.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    No, that's a missile.

    It's funny how you never hear people calling fire extinguisher owners hypocritical for calling the fire department.
    ha, yeah I know, I threw it in there hoping he would say, "no that's not gun porn, that's missile porn."
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