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    @Tellenbach: I am fully aware of the heinous crimes committed by this country (including the Japanese internment camps, Guatanamo, Iraqi occupation, etc. etc.)...we have a much blacker soul than most people care to understand. That's why as a citizen it is my responsibility to be informed, active and responsible.

    My moral code is this: don't bear arms against another...

    P.S. I would strongly suggest, however, that you not rely on Ann Coulter as an authority on anything other than how to write propaganda and fan the flames of hatred...that ain't going to solve anything.
    I've looked at life from both sides now
    From up and down and still somehow
    It's life's illusions I recall
    I really don't know life at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by OWK View Post
    In the last year, the IRS bought 500 short barrel shotguns, 10,000,000 shotgun rounds, and 100,000,000 rounds of .40 smith
    Ok, gotya, the standard issue firearm for the IRS is basically a sawed off shotgun. I know the secret service uses the Sig Sauer P229 now.
    I've had this ice cream bar, since I was a child!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    Good point. Maybe I should join a country that doesn't pay taxes. Which ones are there again?
    So youre saying its not worthing fighting for because it diesnt exist(yet)? With that type of thinking we'd still be in the stone age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrderOfTheCaelifera View Post
    Not all government is a bad thing.
    Sadly, it is.

    It cannot operate without theft or initiated force.


    I'd be glad to support limited government that managed just the basics.
    If your participation in it was voluntary, as was the participation of all, then it wouldn't be a government. It would be a voluntary confederation (which would be perfectly moral)

    Cut 70% of the government out & tell them to get a real job LOL, I gotta quit this thread before I get carried away.
    We basically agree that we want a much smaller govt.

    I just want a little less than you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    So youre saying its not worthing fighting for because it diesnt exist(yet)? With that type of thinking we'd still be in the stone age.
    Ohhhh, countries that don't pay taxes don't EXIST. I didn't realize.

    Did I say that? I don't recall.
    I've had this ice cream bar, since I was a child!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    Good point. Maybe I should join a country that doesn't pay taxes. Which ones are they again?
    All governments are funded by theft, therefore government is good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    Ohhhh, countries that don't pay taxes don't EXIST. I didn't realize.

    Did I say that? I don't recall.
    Are you trying to fuck with my head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon
    So?
    I'm just pointing out the irony. Senator Warren had said this: "I am very proud of my Native American heritage."

    Not only is that a lie or an unproven claim, the evidence that does exist shows that her ancestor persecuted native americans.

    Back to guns:

    "I have asserted the right of Negroes to meet the violence of the Ku Klux Klan by armed self-defense- and have acted on it. It has always been an accepted right of Americans, as the history of our Western states proves, that where the law is unable, or unwilling, to enforce order, the citizens can, and must act in self-defense against lawless violence." Robert F. Williams, author of "Negroes With Guns"

    This guy started an organization to fight the KKK himself and he used guns.
    Senator Rand Paul is alive because of modern medicine and because his attacker punches like a girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OWK View Post
    All governments are funded by theft, therefore government is good?
    I don't recall saying "all governments are funded by theft." To be honest, that sounds like something you would say.
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    South Africa has passed Gun Control legislation without too much fuss. Now all the USA has to do is to catch up with South Africa.

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