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  • NF- Conservative

    1 2.63%
  • NT- Conservative

    3 7.89%
  • SJ- Conservative

    3 7.89%
  • SP- Conservative

    1 2.63%
  • NF- Liberal

    12 31.58%
  • NT- Liberal

    6 15.79%
  • SJ- Liberal

    4 10.53%
  • SP- Liberal

    5 13.16%
  • Im from Canada

    3 7.89%
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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    Im talking about the word as it is used and understood by the masses.
    But "liberalism" where I live, and according to wikipedia, is synonymous with freedom from social restrictions, government and taxes, amongst other things.

    I've never heard or seen it used the way you did.

    It also makes sense etymologically, stemming from the latin word for "free".

    Could it be that American "liberalism" is just shorthand for social liberalism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    But "liberalism" where I live, and according to wikipedia, is synonymous with freedom from social restrictions, government and taxes, amongst other things.

    I've never heard or seen it used the way you did.

    It also makes sense etymologically, stemming from the latin word for "free".

    Could it be that American "liberalism" is just shorthand for social liberalism?
    What you said is not in the wiki link you listed. Wiki says this:
    Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.[1] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property
    and later they talk about Liberal economic theory and say this:
    Government should be limited to defence, public works and the administration of justice, financed by taxes based on income.
    So whether you think Liberalism where you live is based on "freedom from social restrictions, government and taxes", it isn't that in Wiki for the general world definition.

    I believe that libertarians want smaller governments and less taxes, but I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeBob View Post
    What you said is not in the wiki link you listed. Wiki says this:
    Yes, that was sloppy reading on my part. I also associated their support of private property and liberty in general with freedom from taxes and social restrictions.

    and later they talk about Liberal economic theory and say this:


    So whether you think Liberalism where you live is based on "freedom from social restrictions, government and taxes", it isn't that in Wiki for the general world definition.
    Yes, I should've written that it's synonymous with "limited government and taxes".

    Not a leftist ideology anyway. Which is why I wondered if the American liberalism is really social liberalism, since that's more to the centre/centre-left.

    I believe that libertarians want smaller governments and less taxes, but I could be wrong.
    They're basically liberals, but more extreme.

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    UK Conservative Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    Personally, I am a Right Wing Liberal Libertarian.
    Blah.

    The way I wrote that is confusing.

    I am Center-Right Libertarian.

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    Orwellian. NF Liberal

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    None of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lue View Post
    None of the above.
    The poll is not important, getting to know each others poltical convictions is.

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    Republican. I am pro-big business, pro-white, and pro-military. I am a classical realist in terms of foreign policy. I support corporate welfare. I am xenophobic, homophobic, racist, classist, and sexist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWCB1890 View Post
    Republican. I am pro-big business, pro-white, and pro-military. I am a classical realist in terms of foreign policy. I support corporate welfare. I am xenophobic, homophobic, racist, classist, and sexist.
    why do you feel you identify with so many 'phobias' about groups of human beings?
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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