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    Well, globally speaking, it creates more jobs, so from a global perspective, it is not an issue. It is impossible to narrow horizons that have already been widened. The only solution is to create a world-nation so that there is no "out" to source, until of course we find a planet full of free labor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fghw View Post
    Well, globally speaking, it creates more jobs, so from a global perspective, it is not an issue. It is impossible to narrow horizons that have already been widened. The only solution is to create a world-nation so that there is no "out" to source, until of course we find a planet full of free labor...
    We could always use robots. All of the benefits of slavery with none of the glaring ethical issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flame View Post
    Outsourcing kills jobs in america.

    Employers have no reason to hire in america because it costs too much to pay workers.

    Legislation is led by special interest groups who sway the brain-dead majority whatever direction they choose via media and lobbyists.

    So how is one to end globalism and outsourcing in America?
    This is our second attempt at globalization.

    The first attempt was provoked by the invention of the electric telegraph, and our second attempt is provoked by the computer.

    And although we have forgotten, the first attempt at globalization brought immense hope, prosperity and happiness, but it all ended in the tragedy of the First World War.

    And although it is hard to believe our second attempt at globalization could also end in war. It might be war with China, or perhaps nuclear war starting in the Middle East, or Putin could look for revenge for the loss of the Ukraine.

    But if you want to get a feel for the innocent hope engendered by our first attempt at globalization, read The Wind in the Willows written at the very height of our first attempt at globalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maybetmp View Post
    We could always use robots. All of the benefits of slavery with none of the glaring ethical issues.
    Robots cost more than outsourcing when initial and maintenance costs are taken into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fghw View Post
    Robots cost more than outsourcing when initial and maintenance costs are taken into account.
    But in the long-term, humans would outstrip the costs of self-maintaining robots. Probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maybetmp View Post
    We could always use robots. All of the benefits of slavery with none of the glaring ethical issues.
    Globalization is not driven by labour, and globalization is not even driven by capital, rather globalization is driven by electricity, in particular, the electric telegraph in the first instance, and the computer in our second instance.

    And as there is no way to uninvent electricity, there is no way to stop electric globalization.

    And look around us here - Typology Central is the perfect example of globalizaton, and the only way to stop us is to pull the electric plug.

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    Globalisation is driven by means of transporting resources AND information. It isn't a modern phenomenon. It started thousands of years ago. We just happen to be in an era of its acceleration. The Roman Empire didn't start with the telegraph, nor the Silk Road. Electronic communication is just speeding it up globalisation- it isn't the cause of it.

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    In my personal opinion, the easiest thing to do is, as a consumer, buy American if you're really super stoked about it.

    Then see if you feel like revolving your life around buying American made only.

    If you don't really care yourself, then I don't really think you should expect others to care for you.
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    The only way to end globalization is through a global tragedy like World War I.

    And how interesting that narcissistic, parochial Americans want to end globalization.

    What a shame Americans haven't followed our example and launched themselves into the globalized world. We ended our tariffs, deregulated our banks, and took our place in the global markets. As a result we have been growing non-stop for 23 years, have a triple A credit rating, and look forward to continuing grown for the next 50 years.

    Of course we follow Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, a text of the Scottish Enlightenment published in 1776, where we prudently regulate our banks and economy, and ensure capitalist competition with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    The pay once one has some experience is usually much better than that of the average office worker.
    Really? Much better? In my experience the hourly pay is normally either equal or slightly lower (unless you're self-employed), the main upside being that you can work more hours.

    In my opinion, the main reason why there's a problem in the recruitment process is that the incentives are still too low compared to the expected costs.
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