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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    You just love to ask silly questions that you could answer in 0.2 seconds using Google.

    Here's one:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aetna

    Here's another one:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Shield_of_California

    I could find a lot more, but I think it's pointless to list these because they're so easy to find using Google.
    How is Aetna gaining anything? They've recently lost my business. And in fact they've been calling their customer base trying to find ways to get their business back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What do you think the cost is to cover preexisting conditions, in this case? In terms of loss vs gain?
    I don't know what that cost is, but it's being passed on to the consumers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    How is Aetna gaining anything? They've recently lost my business. And in fact they've been calling their customer base trying to find ways to get their business back.
    Aetna lost your business, so now they're going out of business?

    Whether or not Aetna, in particular, is growing is irrelevant. The industry is growing, as a whole, because of the ACA. Aetna's loss is another insurance corporation's gain.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Aetna lost your business, so now they're going out of business?
    That is a simple-minded interpretation of what I said. I did say that Aetna is calling their customer base trying to get its business back. But this was AFTER they were forced by ACA to drop every account that has a yearly cap on medical spending.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Whether or not Aetna, in particular, is growing is irrelevant. The industry is growing, as a whole, because of the ACA. Aetna's loss is another insurance corporation's gain.
    Then why did you cite Aetna in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    That is a simple-minded interpretation of what I said. I did say that Aetna is calling their customer base trying to get its business back. But this was AFTER they were forced by ACA to drop every account that has a yearly cap on medical spending.
    Every company wants to retain customers. This is not unique to Aetna.

    Then why did you cite Aetna in the first place?
    Because every health insurance corporation in the country benefits. Aetna will benefit in the long run, even if they're taking a little while to adjust. In the end, costs are always passed on to the consumer.

    By the way, I don't believe what you're saying about Aetna is in anyway unique, even if it were to be true. And I don't take your word on anything. You've proven yourself to not be trustworthy in your time on this forum.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Every company wants to retain customers. This is not unique to Aetna.


    Because every health insurance corporation in the country benefits. Aetna will benefit in the long run, even if they're taking a little while to adjust. In the end, costs are always passed on to the consumer.

    By the way, I don't believe what you're saying about Aetna is in anyway unique, even if it were to be true. And I don't take your word on anything. You've proven yourself to not be trustworthy in your time on this forum.
    Ad hominem is irrelevant. I was an Aetna customer for about a year. Late last year I received a letter from Aetna stating that I am losing my health coverage DUE TO ACA, for the reason I stated above.

    Last month, Aetna asked that I set up a phone appointment with them in which we would discuss re-enabling my benefits. The new package they offered was terrible, and I rejected it.
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    I have no idea who we're likely to see, but I'd love to see Bernie Sanders and Rick Santorum just for shits and giggles.
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    Christie is still high in the running regardless of what the 4th estate is nattering about. He's was getting to be more popular than they were comfortable with and needed to be knocked down a peg.

    Any governor with a good record is still in it.

    I think the seriousness of many of the candidates will make the earlier debates bloodbath's for the more fringe candidates.

    I'm sticking with my Rand prediction, but that operates on the assumption that he continues to be more ideologically pliable than his father on a host of issues (which I think he will be).

    I think Hillary is a much weaker candidate than current coverage seems to suggest. That's not to say that she wont be a tough opponent in the general, just that she's not the unstoppable juggernaut the MSM has been making her out to be of late.

    It will be interesting to see if the US public is interested in 4 more years of the kind of rip roaring good times we've been having for the last 8. (sarcasm italics)

    I suspect that Hillary might end up sounding like yesterday, whereas whoever the GOP puts up will sound like tomorrow.

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    I don't know, I suspect we'll be forced to choose between yesterday and yesteryear. Then again, I'm not exactly what you'd call an unbridled optimist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    I'm sticking with my Rand prediction, but that operates on the assumption that he continues to be more ideologically pliable than his father on a host of issues (which I think he will be).
    I expect that to be counteracted by the fact that he's a lot more of an asshole than his dad.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    I suspect that Hillary might end up sounding like yesterday, whereas whoever the GOP puts up will sound like tomorrow.
    That would just be amazing.
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