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    I don't have a problem with people owning weapons, but I do have a problem with people concealing them in public. Fuck that. Why are gun owners so intent on hiding the fact that they are carrying a gun? Why are they hiding?
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    I usually can't see how the second amendment says these things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Why can't you be happy with your guns, your paranoia, your daily killings and your gun massacres of school children?

    Why do you need to try to force your guns on us with your gun pornography, your gun propaganda and the illegal smuggling of guns into Oz in engine blocks?

    I understand you have a religious belief in guns so I guess I shouldn't be surprised to discover you are evangelical across the world.

    Of course your religion is guns and money and you make a motza selling guns across the world.
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    Your posts clearly show that you must not be able to stand people having guns because from your posts you're obviously pro-control-over-people. Power begets lust for more power over people. Which is exactly the reason people own guns. These have been historically repeated and known truths about people.

    You practically state everything with a 'we' in front like as if everyone was marching along with you shoulder-to-shoulder agreeing. No. What's with the attempted brainwashing? So the posts are borderline inciting trouble. Why do you do this?

    You have continued telling me what I am--There you are.

    There you have it in a nutshell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    I don't have a problem with people owning weapons, but I do have a problem with people concealing them in public. Fuck that. Why are gun owners so intent on hiding the fact that they are carrying a gun? Why are they hiding?
    Open carry is not legal everywhere. Besides, in urban environments it tends to cause an unnecessary commotion and retention becomes concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD45T-2 View Post
    Open carry is not legal everywhere. Besides, in urban environments it tends to cause an unnecessary commotion and retention becomes concern.
    Lobby for open carry then. Stop hiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    How wonderful you have your Second Amendment, but what a betrayal of your friend and ally that you continue to try to smuggle guns into Oz in engine blocks.
    Your Nazi-like nationalistic fervor is more frightening than the average gun-toter. You can't even acknowledge the fact that some aussie citizens want to own guns; they are simply victims of American propaganda and "gun pornography."

    In your opinion, what moral measures should Australia take to defend itself if a foreign country decided to invade the wonderful world of Oz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Plexus View Post
    In your opinion, what moral measures should Australia take to defend itself if an invading country decided to seize the wonderful world of Oz?
    We have an excellent Royal Australian Navy, and excellent Royal Australian Airforce, and the Australian Army, united in a Common Command. As well we have an excellent Intelligence Service united with Britain, Canada, New Zealand and the United States of America.

    We mounted the last successful cavalry charge in history against the Ottoman Empire, and took the surrender of the Ottoman Empire in Damascus.

    We successfully defended Australia against the Japanese Empire, and were the first to defeat Japanese forces in WW II.

    On the ground we have excellent armed Police Services in each State, as well as one of the best armed Federal Police Services in the world, the Australian Federal Police.

    As well, every ANZAC Day the Australian people show their full support to our Navy, our Airforce and our Army.

    And as well, our geostratgic situation is enviable.

    Amateurs could not defend Australia against invasion, it takes a professional military to defend Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solar Plexus View Post
    Your Nazi-like nationalistic fervor is more frightening than the average gun-toter. You can't even acknowledge the fact that some aussie citizens want to own guns; they are simply victims of American propaganda and "gun pornography."
    Please! Rather than being Nazi-like, I support Liberal Democracy.

    And we know that Australian Subjects do not want to own guns because the decision to ban guns in 1996 is the most popular decision made by any of our elected liberal democratic politicians.

    And we rejected American culture in our Nationwide Referendum in 1999 when we voted against an American Republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winds of Thor View Post
    Your posts clearly show that you must not be able to stand people having guns because from your posts you're obviously pro-control-over-people.
    We have learnt that power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely, that is why we have Liberal Democracy in order to limit power and maximise freedom and equality.

    Guns are so obviously a way of having absolute power over another person, they are absolutely corrupting.

    And how difficult or even impossible it is for Americans to admit guns have corrupted their culture.

    And of course we don't want their gun culture and their gun pornography here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Please! Rather than being Nazi-like, I support Liberal Democracy.

    And we know that Australian Subjects do not want to own guns because the decision to ban guns in 1996 is the most popular decision made by any of our elected liberal democratic politicians.

    And we rejected American culture in our Nationwide Referendum in 1999 when we voted against an American Republic.
    You support your liberal democracy while denouncing the US's decision to have and uphold our second amendment rights? Such double-standards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    We have learnt that power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely, that is why we have Liberal Democracy in order to limit power and maximise freedom and equality.

    Guns are so obviously a way of having absolute power over another person, they are absolutely corrupting.

    And how difficult or even impossible it is for Americans to admit guns have corrupted their culture.

    And of course we don't want their gun culture and their gun pornography here.
    So...absolute power corrupts absolutely, as do guns in your opinion. Yet you are okay with a government having absolute power AND using guns which corrupt absolutely to maintain that power?

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