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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    I married my husband because I loved him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    I married my husband because I loved him.
    I married both of my wives (long story) because I loved them too. I married "down" both times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    Insectoid pornography Ginkgo? Insectoid porn is a gateway to human porn. Porn leads to fornication and eventually beastiality.

    True story.
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    Maybe the biggest problem about this problem would be that people are way too obsessed about gender. Seriously, if I was in a situation with two people in a burning building and I had the opportunity to save only one, I'd choose the one I like most. Plus, I also denied a jacket from a guy a while ago when I thought he needed it more than I did (I'm afraid he saw that as a rejection, but I just thought his well being was more important than mine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comeback Girl View Post
    Maybe the biggest problem about this problem would be that people are way too obsessed about gender. Seriously, if I was in a situation with two people in a burning building and I had the opportunity to save only one, I'd choose the one I like most. Plus, I also denied a jacket from a guy a while ago when I thought he needed it more than I did (I'm afraid he saw that as a rejection, but I just thought his well being was more important than mine).
    Hello,

    I used to not care too much about the subject. I scratched the surface gave a sniff and went about my life. As I grew older and started working with people that were older, mid 30s, 40s, 50s and the types of problems people in that age range have. I became more aware of the inequities for both sexes, but especially the male side. Marriage and families is something that everyone can relate to and I began to see/hear/read about the side effects of government subsides for women and watched the nuclear family dying (80s - 90s).
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    Most complaints about patriarchy theory sound to me like ones that have already been addressed a while ago through the concept known as intersectionality.

    As for the general topic, my position is basically this at the heart: There are lots of examples of the so-called male disposability problem, but as far as I can tell, men are primarily the ones that perpetuate it, and women in general or feminists in particular don't much enter into this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Most complaints about patriarchy theory sound to me like ones that have already been addressed a while ago through the concept known as intersectionality.
    Tntersectionality theory relies on identity politics and ignores the materiality underpinning gender and gender relations. Ironically a really good critique of the theory is made by Eve Mitchell: I am a woman and a human: a Marxist Feminist critique of intersectionality theory


    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    As for the general topic, my position is basically this at the heart: There are lots of examples of the so-called male disposability problem, but as far as I can tell, men are primarily the ones that perpetuate it, and women in general or feminists in particular don't much enter into this issue.
    Male disposability is a sociological construct that is no longer needed. Women have a lot to do with how males are raised and along with her male mate, just as much to do with assigning values/roles. Feminism is a relatively new (last couple hundred years) ideology which prior to the 1960s was very much a minority.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age. " - H.P. Lovecraft

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    Double post. Darn lag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankyMcFly View Post
    Tntersectionality theory relies on identity politics and ignores the materiality underpinning gender and gender relations. Ironically a really good critique of the theory is made by Eve Mitchell: I am a woman and a human: a Marxist Feminist critique of intersectionality theory
    I have a distaste for identity politics, but as it is, intersectionality actually goes a long way to take the stuff of identity politics and turn it back into something flexible enough for the real world. There are accepted ways to categorize people in a society, and privileges bestowed unevenly to different identified categories. A person can be combinations of the more and less privileged categories, and each one will have its respective effect on a person's life.

    Ideally I'd like these categories to not exist. In reality, I know they do and have a serious impact, and trying to pretend they don't is essentially just neglecting the problem. It doesn't matter how silly you think any categories are in philosophical terms, perceived power is real power. If those who have the power in society (by numbers, by rank, by any means) believe in black and white or masculine and feminine, they will make it a reality through the way they treat people.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpankyMcFly View Post
    Male disposability is a sociological construct that is no longer needed. Women have a lot to do with how males are raised and along with her male mate, just as much to do with assigning values/roles. Feminism is a relatively new (last couple hundred years) ideology which prior to the 1960s was very much a minority.
    Male disposability was an idea way before any wave of feminism existed, and it was not needed way before now. This response, I feel, is largely unrelated to the statement of mine that it quotes.

    It is true that women are involved in raising boys and thus play a part in how boys think of themselves and other boys, but where do women get the ideas they pass on, anyhow? It's worth remembering that in Saudi Arabia, there are plenty of women who are attached to, and promoters of, the standards that are so obviously oppressive to women and patriarchal in nature in our eyes. The point being, a woman may pass on an idea to her sons that is still essentially a concept she has been taught by a male dominated culture. And when a woman decides to raise her sons in a way that does not gear them toward being stereotypical masculine men, she's likely to receive a lot of flack from adult, stereotypical masculine men.

    Like I've said, men continue this idea of their place in society, disposability and all.

    Also, that comment about feminism being very much in the minority before the 1960s totally forgets the first wave of feminism. It would be more accurate to say that a sort of decline in feminism temporarily happened from the mid 40s to somewhere a little after 1960.
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