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    I like her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gromit View Post
    Eh... on the one hand, I think she's got some valid points about how the current system impacts men/males. On the other hand, she's pretty anti-female... I think it's more of a balance... both men and women get impacted negatively by socially-forced gender roles. And to not acknowledge both sides is the error...
    i didn't hear anything anti-female.

    what did she say that was anti-female? maybe i just heard it differently.



    edit: i heard plenty of anti-feminist lines... maybe you're unconsciously confusing feminism with female?
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    Loosely speaking, males have a pretty crappy intrinsic value, while females have considerable value just for being females, which is probably standard in the animal kingdom. However, economic power/potential can drastically affect men's value. A man with a lot of providing potential is usually valued much more than women in an equivalent position, while a poor man is in the worst possible position.

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    I'm not even sure what it means to be 'valued' in the societal sense, or why I should bother striving for it. Beyond a certain level of basic human respect, I don't feel the need to have hordes of (dull) strangers bowing at my presence.

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    In a general sense, women left their obligations to gender roles with glee and public celebration whilst admitting it or not, still holding men to their gender roles. They want their cake and to eat it too. Society crumbles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawbawbowba View Post
    In a general sense, women left their obligations to gender roles with glee and public celebration whilst admitting it or not, still holding men to their gender roles. They want their cake and to eat it too. Society crumbles.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stansmith View Post
    I'm not even sure what it means to be 'valued' in the societal sense, or why I should bother striving for it. Beyond a certain level of basic human respect, I don't feel the need to have hordes of (dull) strangers bowing at my presence.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawbawbowba View Post
    In a general sense, women left their obligations to gender roles with glee and public celebration whilst admitting it or not, still holding men to their gender roles. They want their cake and to eat it too. Society crumbles.
    Obligations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    Obligations?
    >Fire Goddess
    nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawbawbowba View Post
    >Fire Goddess
    nope.
    I'm asking what you consider these obligations to be.

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