User Tag List

First 61415161718 Last

Results 151 to 160 of 204

  1. #151
    & Badger, Ratty and Toad Mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    18,535

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    First, your response to that post is a non-sequitur.
    This is a serious point.

    Print is linear and sequential, so it is only in print that a non-sequitor can occur.

    And it has plainly passed your attention that you are not reading print now, rather you are reading electronic text.

    They are different mediums.

  2. #152
    Senior Member _eric_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    9w1 sp/so
    Socionics
    ENFj
    Posts
    288

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    I've posted a few responses here I might as well say my piece.

    I am NOT a pro gun rights person (but note, that does not imply anti-gun rights), at all. I also hate the NRA. I do not like guns, and I have not since I was little. I want nothing to do with them. Someone shows me their collection and stuff? Sure, that's nice, keep it away from me. I am not interested. Quite frankly I find them boring anyway. With that said, I certainly understand why people love them. I'm a chemist and I quite like explosions (made quite a few in my day), and there are some similarities there for sure.

    Gun violence is a problem. It has been for a long, long time. It's never going to stop in the US either, sadly. It's a cultural problem. Much in the way that the USSR becoming Russia was thought to remove the corruption of the country with a massive changing of the guard, it didn't. It's sadly a systemic problem of the culture there, it just got effectively sanctioned and privatized. Those in the US that want guns, will get them. Even with intense regulation. Can we make things safer and smarter in regards to gun rights? Most definitely, and it does need to happen and I hope to see it happen soon. It will never remove the entire problem. I still foresee the US being one of the top countries for gun violence in the foreseeable future, even if we fix everything. It's a very sad, unfortunate cultural problem.

    In the grand scheme of things though, are guns really that big of a deal? No. There are FAR worse problems in this country than guns and gun violence. Simply limiting access across the board might curb it slightly, but it is NOT the way to go about it. I consider myself to be an Elizabeth Warren-esque liberal, but after Gabby Giffords, Newtown, and other shooting events, the democrats got RABID over gun rights. Why? Because feelings. It drove me nuts. People have every right to be angry and upset, but that is not an excuse to completely ramrod regulation through congress without taking time and attention to make sure the regulations are smart, well completed, and will minimize the impact of those who should have the right to own them. I am for universal background checks. It makes sense, on paper. The states that have something akin to it, such as my homestate of New Jersey, results in a rediculous amount or red tape that ultimately causes hassle or flat out barring from folks who should have no issue gaining access to them. The system doesn't seem to work right. We need to change it and look at it carefully so it would be implimented correctly. In short, if you're going to set regulation, do it correctly. Don't do it fast because it will make people feel all warm and fuzzy. As I said, I am a liberal, but the level to which many liberals fall for the "warm fuzzy" ideas can drive me nuts sometimes. Use logic please.

    I am SICK of hearing about this gun right debate on the news. SO TIRED OF IT. Folks, citizens of the US, we have muuuuuch bigger fish to fry, and much bigger issues at our door that need to be dealt with than petty gun right debates. In the grand scheme of things, it's not a major problem at all. It's quite a minor one. The media simply makes it seem to be a WAY larger problem than it is. It's absolutely a problem, and we need to work on it. But, we need to work on it when things aren't as dire and don't need such direct attention.

    As for assault rifles. Does anyone need them? No. Should people be allowed to own them? Not sure, and quite frankly, I don't care. It's at the bottom of the bottom of my list of issues, and is SUCH a tiny problem (if any problem) that I have the "do what you want" mindset with this. And yes, this makes many of my liberal friends look at me like "TRAITOR". Oh well, I don't pick sides with issue just because my "team" is supposed to go one way or another.
    Excellent post here; it's always good to see people who don't just go with the flow. There is no rational reason to single out assault rifles anyways, I mean even if you look up stats on what weapons cause deaths (whether by murder or whatever other category you choose, excluding military action of course), the vast, vast majority are pistols. Not that that one aspect alone is enough to base policy change on, of course, but I just wanted to mention a quick and very basic example of something that shows this is not such a simple black and white issue as people who sensationalize gun control make it out to be, like by making assault rifles out to be the most evilest dangerous thing EVAR with their emotional arguing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Everyone in the world, except for a large number of Americans, know the problem is guns.

    And everyone knows that guns put children at risk of death and injury.

    And any country that deliberately and systematically puts its children at risk is abusive.
    The problem is people. Guns and any other weapon are only a tool, the person behind them is the one committing the act. If someone wants someone else dead, they will find whatever means necessary to do so. Banning guns is just irrelevant, it does not change anything about us humans and our nature. We have been killing each other for forever and banning guns will not change it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Our site is called Typology Central.

    It is founded on the study of Types: the study of Personality Types and the study of Archetypes.

    But Typology Central is being taken over by those who promote the pornography of guns.
    Cut the paranoia crap and emotional guilt-tripping of people here; get off your high horse already. What proof do you have of the NRA having some kind of agenda to infiltrate this forum and propagandize? Why would the NRA even give a crap about a forum like this anyways, let alone ANY internet forum that's not even primarily for the discussion of weapons? Show some actual facts. Your last sentence is also very sensationalistic and blowing things way out of proportion. This thread is not the whole forum, and you are being extremely biased. I also doubt that discussion of and complaints about moderation policy (i.e. your suggestion that 'gun pornography' should be banned here) belongs here; at the very least I don't think this is the appropriate or relevant place to be talking about it. There is a feedback sub-forum for a reason. Use it if it's an issue of such great importance to you.

  3. #153
    & Badger, Ratty and Toad Mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    18,535

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by _eric_ View Post
    The problem is people.
    The problem is the American people.

    To understand the American people we need to understand their culture.

    And to understand the culture of the American people we need to understand their Archetype.

    And their Archetype is paranoia.

    Their paranoia is due to the denial of guilt for symbolically killing their Father, the King.

    And because of the denial of guilt, Americans can't be forgiven, so they fear punishment for the killing of the Father.

    This is a site devoted to psychology, yet all we hear from Americans is the pornography of guns, we hear nothing, nothing about their Archetype.

    This site is called Typology Central yet Americans remain resolutely silent about their own Archetype.

  4. #154
    & Badger, Ratty and Toad Mole's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    18,535

    Default

    So the American Archetype is afraid of being punished for symbolically killing the father.

    But what punishment is the American Archetype afraid of?

    The clue lies in what they are grasping in their hands.

    And they are grasping the gun, and they are afraid someone will take it from them.

    The gun is a phallic symbol.

    So the American Archetype is afraid of having their phallus taken from them.

  5. #155
    ndovjtjcaqidthi
    Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    So the American Archetype is afraid of being punished for symbolically killing the father.

    But what punishment is the American Archetype afraid of?

    The clue lies in what they are grasping in their hands.

    And they are grasping the gun, and they are afraid someone will take it from them.

    The gun is a phallic symbol.

    So the American Archetype is afraid of having their phallus taken from them.
    Very good.

  6. #156
    Level 8 Propaganda Bot SpankyMcFly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    461 so/sx
    Posts
    2,396

    Default

    @Mole

    Did you know one of the biggest determinants of violence and delinquency as an adult is whether or not there is an active father in a child's life?

    Parental Childrearing Attitudes as Correlates of Father Involvement During Infancy http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174267/ Be warned however that it is a study done by the American NCBI part of the U.S. National Institutes of Health. I know you are a "tad" anti-American.

    Buchanan (she's a woman btw and NOT an American), Hunt, Bretherton & Bream (2001). ‘Families in Conflict’. Citing the Oxford University Longitudinal Study: (2001) observing 17,000 children who were born in 1958 and who have been followed at ages 7,11, 16, 23 and 33. http://books.google.com.mx/books/abo...sC&redir_esc=y

    I could link several other research articles, if you like, all pointing to the importance of a father in a child's life as being a determinant of just about every single positive metric. The research really is piling up.

    Speaking of metrics: In U.S. 1960, less than 8 million children were living in families where the father was absent. In 2002 it was 24 million. Yay for welfare! Ok, not really, kinda sorta.

    *puts down a $20 bet, that if Mole actually clicked my links (and seriously looked into the matter) he'd undergo some serious cognitive dissonance*
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age. " - H.P. Lovecraft

  7. #157
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    MBTI
    ISTJ
    Posts
    85

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    So the American Archetype is afraid of being punished for symbolically killing the father.

    But what punishment is the American Archetype afraid of?

    The clue lies in what they are grasping in their hands.

    And they are grasping the gun, and they are afraid someone will take it from them.

    The gun is a phallic symbol.

    So the American Archetype is afraid of having their phallus taken from them.
    Nah MATE, our giant cock phallic symbols got struck by airplane AIDS in sept 11 2001, never forget.



    I'm like a regular freud-the-fraud over here!
    Last edited by Hawbawbowba; 02-13-2014 at 09:36 PM. Reason: dunno

  8. #158
    Senior Member Nicodemus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    9,130

    Default


  9. #159
    Senior Member _eric_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    9w1 sp/so
    Socionics
    ENFj
    Posts
    288

    Default

    What a lulzy ad. Perfect example of garbage emotional argumentation. "Bu-bu-but think of the children!" does [should] not give you a free pass to throw logic out the window [even though it happens so often anyways because most people still buy into it].

  10. #160
    Ginkgo
    Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    We allow fortune cookies.

    Fortune cookies, an American invention.

    They are full of lies and leave a bad taste in your mouth.

    Just like America.

    /Iron Man 3

Similar Threads

  1. Why am I an ISTJ?
    By swordpath in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 61
    Last Post: 12-29-2011, 10:34 PM
  2. Need an idea for my site!
    By Fluffywolf in forum The Fluff Zone
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 09-16-2010, 12:00 PM
  3. Replies: 24
    Last Post: 08-01-2010, 03:00 AM
  4. Need an Admin's help!
    By maliafee in forum Welcomes and Introductions
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 02-26-2010, 07:55 PM
  5. anyone have an old walkman they'd part with?
    By file cabinet in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 12-04-2008, 09:31 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO