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    Our site is called Typology Central.

    It is founded on the study of Types: the study of Personality Types and the study of Archetypes.

    But Typology Central is being taken over by those who promote the pornography of guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankyMcFly View Post
    Perspective Mr. Mole. There have been 457 deaths (including adults) in mass murders since 1913 in 67 events. More kids die each year by drowning http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreation...factsheet.html

    Where is the outcry to teach kids to swim? How about requiring all pool owners to install anti kid barriers? Ahhh but they aren't "violent" deaths and therefore are less scary and less useful in the politics of fear. Your argument is flawed because it's an emotional one.
    It is illegal to own guns here. Our police have a task force to hunt down those who have guns illegally, and take them before the criminal courts.

    So the gun pornographers on Typology Central are inciting Australians to break the law.

    We have seen this before when the USA National Rifle Association incited Australians to break the law when we banned guns in 1996.

    It is plain Typology Central is being used and abused by the followers and members of the USA National Rifle Association to incite Australians to break the law.

    This reflects very badly on Typology Central.

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    I do not know the situation of the man in the video. I know that black men are victims of violent crime at a higher rate than most other Americans, especially young ones. My perception, which may be inaccurate, is that, depending on where he lives, he's got about as much chance of being killed by police who just see a black man with a gun than he has of being killed by criminals trying to take his stuff.

    There are about 16,000 murders a year in the US. Most of those people are males, so I can see how that would be a bit scary. Roughly half of the victims, however, are black. Last I checked, black people made up around 20% of our population, so that really is scary.

    So a white guy could be one of the 8,000 men in the US to get murdered each year, but there are 300 million people in this country. If white people make 75% of that and males are half of that, that's still 112.5 million people if my math is correct. So you've got an 8K/112.5M chance of getting murdered every year. Give or take.

    I would assume young adult males are a pretty high percentage of that. However, I would imagine affluence reduces the odds by quite a lot. And most people are not murdered by strangers. Certainly not strangers busting down their door when they are home in order to take their stuff.

    So, no, I don't judge the guy in the video. I don't have enough information to say whether or not it's reasonable for him to have that kind of weaponry for self-defense. I think I'd prefer to move someplace safer, myself, but I really don't know if that's an option for him.

    A large, affluent white guy that has to have a small arsenal to feel safe from the vanishingly small chance that strangers are going to kick in his door, kill him, and take his stuff . . . It is very hard for me to understand why someone like that would be so irrationally frightened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    It is very hard for me to understand why someone like that would be so irrationally frightened.
    To be irrationally frightened is called paranoia.

    And it is a mistake to think of paranoia as a personal problem in the USA, for paranoia is a social problem in the USA.

    Americans are paranoid about their government and about their neighbours.

    So the American Archetype is paranoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    To be irrationally frightened is called paranoia.

    And it is a mistake to think of paranoia as a personal problem in the USA, for paranoia is a social problem in the USA.

    Americans are paranoid about their government and about their neighbours.

    So the American Archetype is paranoid.
    Well, that is a good point. Our paranoia is big money, too. It's why we spend more money than, I think, the next nine countries combined on 'defense' and many still don't feel safe. And our media runs on paranoia.

    I try to expel it from myself as much as possible, but it can be hard to do. Statistics help me, sometimes, though. For my paranoia of home invasion (edit: or rather surprising a thief who believed my house to be empty of people), I have a small dog who barks a lot. That is enough to make me feel safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    To be irrationally frightened is called paranoia.

    And it is a mistake to think of paranoia as a personal problem in the USA, for paranoia is a social problem in the USA.

    Americans are paranoid about their government and about their neighbours.

    So the American Archetype is paranoid.
    I'm going to have to actually agree with Mole on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    Well, that is a good point. Our paranoia is big money, too. It's why we spend more money than, I think, the next nine countries combined on 'defense' and many still don't feel safe. And our media runs on paranoia.

    I try to expel it from myself as much as possible, but it can be hard to do. Statistics help me, sometimes, though. For my paranoia of home invasion (edit: or rather surprising a thief who believed my house to be empty of people), I have a small dog who barks a lot. That is enough to make me feel safe.
    Actually, burglars do avoid barking dogs.

    However we are all expressions of our Archetypes. I am archetypically Australian. And to understand my archetype, I have come to understand Australian history, art, literature and religion, I have come to understand our unique environment and biology, I have come to understand our manners and mores, and our psyche, and I have come to understand how we relate to other countries, in particular, yours.

    So what to do?

    Well, we don't believe in revolution rather we believe in slow, incremental, accumulative, democratic change.

    And if we want to change our Archetype in any way, first we need to understand what it is and where it came from.

    And it seems Typology Central is a good place to do this, for not only are we interested in personality types but we are also interested in archetypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Actually, burglars do avoid barking dogs.
    Yes, that is one way in which I have found statistics helpful. I did some reading up on deterring that kind of thing and implement those things which do not take a lot of effort or money. My area has a high poverty rate and a fair amount of property crime, so it seemed a reasonable precaution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    However we are all expressions of our Archetypes. I am archetypically Australian. And to understand my archetype, I have come to understand Australian history, art, literature and religion, I have come to understand our unique environment and biology, I have come to understand our manners and mores, and our psyche, and I have come to understand how we relate to other countries, in particular, yours.

    So what to do?

    Well, we don't believe in revolution rather we believe in slow, incremental, accumulative, democratic change.

    And if we want to change our Archetype in any way, first we need to understand what it is and where it came from.

    And it seems Typology Central is a good place to do this, for not only are we interested in personality types but we are also interested in archetypes.
    I do not think I know a lot about archetypes, but I do try to learn about history and about the world and how other people have done and do things. And I like statistics for that. Today, for example, I discovered an American woman my age is more likely to die from suicide than from any other cause. That is sad and a little surprising. In just a few years, I will be much more likely to die of heart disease. So what I should really be afraid of is depression and unhealthy food. If I want to be paranoid in the most reasonable way possible, I should be on my guard against cheeseburgers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cafe View Post
    Yes, that is one way in which I have found statistics helpful. I did some reading up on deterring that kind of thing and implement those things which do not take a lot of effort or money. My area has a high poverty rate and a fair amount of property crime, so it seemed a reasonable precaution.

    I do not think I know a lot about archetypes, but I do try to learn about history and about the world and how other people have done and do things. And I like statistics for that. Today, for example, I discovered an American woman my age is more likely to die from suicide than from any other cause. That is sad and a little surprising. In just a few years, I will be much more likely to die of heart disease. So what I should really be afraid of is depression and unhealthy food. If I want to be paranoid in the most reasonable way possible, I should be on my guard against cheeseburgers.
    Well, you not only have a good guard dog, you have a little friend for life.

    And exercise you enjoy, and good food you enjoy, will keep you with us on Typology Central for a good time yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Well, you not only have a good guard dog, you have a little friend for life.

    And exercise you enjoy, and good food you enjoy, will keep you with us on Typology Central for a good time yet.
    I do love my little dog. He is a sweetie.

    And I made a mistake. Men my age are most likely to die of suicide. I'm more likely to die of poisoning (usually drug overdose and often prescription pain medications). In a few years it will be breast cancer and then heart disease. So my chest is the truly terrifying thing, I guess.
    “There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”
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