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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't see a reason to take advice from someone who makes big assertions about things they know nothing about and have given no thought. A non-thinking entity is the last source to seek advice about self-critique.
    I've given plenty of thought to stupid things. Then I realized that thinking about them was also stupid, so I did the smart thing and quit.

    Ideologues such as socialists and Randites have simply stopped thinking, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Simple. It doesn't work in practice. It doesn't work in theory either, but socialists and communists aren't willing to critique their own belief systems. May as well ask a Randroid to self-critique.
    Wait, what? Cooperatives work just fine. There are countless cooperatives in the US, both consumer and workers types. The problem with setting up a cooperative is the initial capital. Those with the capital to start a business aren't usually keen on giving that investment away to their employees.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Because a car that runs on gas works well, a car which tries to run on hamster power doesn't work.

    I should know, I'm one of the hamsters of the world, just like you. And believe me, you don't want us to be in charge of things.
    This is nonsense. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about when it comes to cooperatives. Cooperatives still have CEOs. They still have janitors and everything in between.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Wait, what? Cooperatives work just fine. There are countless cooperatives in the US, both consumer and workers types. The problem with setting up a cooperative is the initial capital. Those with the capital to start a business aren't usually keen on giving that investment away to their employees.
    In a way, I would rather the gov't turn defunct industries into co-ops rather than relying on imports from factories in China and Malaysia. The fascist US gov't would likely to be kinder to them, and not regulate them and unionize them out of business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I don't see a reason to take advice from someone who makes big assertions about things they know nothing about and have given no thought. A non-thinking entity is the last source to seek advice about self-critique.
    Then try this assertion from one of your masters:
    http://www.marxists.org/reference/ar...-book/ch27.htm

    Conscientious practice of self-criticism is still another hallmark distinguishing our Party from all other political parties. As we say, dust will accumulate if a room is not cleaned regularly, our faces will get dirty if they are not washed regularly. Our comrades' minds and our Party's work may also collect dust, and also need sweeping and washing. The proverb "Running water is never stale and a door-hinge is never worm-eaten" means that constant motion prevents the inroads of germs and other organisms. To check up regularly on our work and in the process develop a democratic style of work, to fear neither criticism nor self-criticism, and to apply such good popular Chinese maxims as "Say all you know and say it without reserve", "Blame not the speaker but be warned by his words" and "Correct mistakes if you have committed them and guard against them if you have not" - this is the only effective way to prevent all kinds of political dust and germs from contaminating the minds of our comrades and the body of our Party.
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    You know that your ideology sucks when the biggest advocates are closet cases who deny being socialists/marxists/communists. Kudos to Larry O'Donnell, Bernie Sanders, and Elisabeth Warren for having the courage to admit their true natures to the public. Today, most Democrats advocate marxist policies without admitting to being marxists. They'll lie and preach fiscal conservatism and pretend to be capitalists, but when they're in power, their true natures come out. Here's an example:

    "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." Barack Obama, Sept 12, 2008

    Meanwhile, he's arguing before the Supreme Court that Obamacare is a tax, not a fine, lol.
    Senator Rand Paul is alive because of modern medicine and because his attacker punches like a girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellenbach View Post
    You know that your ideology sucks when the biggest advocates are closet cases who deny being socialists/marxists/communists. Kudos to Larry O'Donnell, Bernie Sanders, and Elisabeth Warren for having the courage to admit their true natures to the public. Today, most Democrats advocate marxist policies without admitting to being marxists. They'll lie and preach fiscal conservatism and pretend to be capitalists, but when they're in power, their true natures come out. Here's an example:

    "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." Barack Obama, Sept 12, 2008

    Meanwhile, he's arguing before the Supreme Court that Obamacare is a tax, not a fine, lol.
    No argument there, I just question the part about "pretend to be capitalists." Republicans pretend to be capitalists.
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    testing testing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilogen View Post
    testing testing
    Testy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Testy.
    The site wasn't working for me for a while. Now it does again.

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