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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    They like it more than women.
    I'm sorry but that's not an aswer to my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I'm sorry but that's not an aswer to my post.
    It wasn't intended to be, your ad hominem about the nature of my opinions precludes real discussion between us.

    Get lost.

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    More men are interested, sure. I don't think there's any evidence that their interest is natural. Like I said, people are encouraged and discouraged from things in both subtle and unsubtle ways from early ages, and the effect of that on what people turn out to be interested in doing can't be denied IMO. Maybe if I had fond memories of working on my dad's truck with him, I'd have wanted to become a mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    More men are interested, sure. I don't think there's any evidence that their interest is natural. Like I said, people are encouraged and discouraged from things in both subtle and unsubtle ways from early ages, and the effect of that on what people turn out to be interested in doing can't be denied IMO. Maybe if I had fond memories of working on my dad's truck with him, I'd have wanted to become a mechanic.
    In your opinion absent cultural influence, what percentage of men vs women do you think would become mechanics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Get lost.
    No, you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    In your opinion absent cultural influence, what percentage of men vs women do you think would become mechanics?
    I don't know. "I don't think we know what the situation would be without the cultural influence. It's kind of like looking at your own eyeball."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    No, you.
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    BTW I'm not moderating this because I'm involved in the discussion and we try not to do both things in the same thread (discuss and moderate). Somebody else is on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qrious View Post
    From the article:


    This is filled with holes, if you take this "argument" of hers to its logical conclusion. I sarcastically pointed out the most prominent gaping hole.

    Men are biologically equipped to be the fighters, and protectors.
    When the apocalypse hits, women will be sorry that there are no men there to do those dirty work for them. Like defending territories.
    From who?
    Not from other men, as given her previous premise, men won't be there, but, as you said, it will be from other women.
    So, it's an equal playing field, making her argument for the biological advantage of men obsolete (and thereby, a "need" for men).
    I.e., she nullifies her own argument.

    (this is but one of the many logical inconsistences presented in her argument. It grates my Ti something fierce.)
    Thanks for explaining and clarifying.

    If you take the logic another step, since there is no benefit to be gained by "getting rid" of men, in regards to who fights the inevitable conflicts as there will inevitably be other future ones requiring an armed force. Then why advocate for it in the first place with that as one the reasons?

    Men are bad because they cause wars.
    Getting rid of men will get rid of war.

    The irony is that it is men who pay the heaviest overall price of war by a huge margin (BMJ http://www.bmj.com/content/336/7659/1482) and 98% (OIF, OND & OEF http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22452.pdf) of the combat casualties (historically its 99.9% men), you'd think feminazi's would be ok with that... *boggle*

    This is why I posted in response to you. I didn't see the sarcasm, just the text "who would the women need protecting from?".

    The whole concept of male disposability just makes me cringe and is hardly about "equality". Heck, everytime I see the word male/men during discussions about the "utility" of males I remove/replace it with Jew/Black etc. and then it quickly becomes apparent what the discussion is really about.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age. " - H.P. Lovecraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I don't know. "I don't think we know what the situation would be without the cultural influence. It's kind of like looking at your own eyeball."
    Well I'm glad you've said so.

    It is my belief that on the whole men (note not all men) are more inclined to trades such as being a mechanic than are women.

    It is my further belief that this inclination exists absent cultural norms.

    Would you agree or disagree?

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