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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Most people who allow their emotional response to be tempered by some rational analysis arrive at a similar conclusion. My specific reasoning is that the U.S. will be able to have more influence over outcomes if we appear to be, and actually function as, an "honest broker". We cannot do this by taking sides as a government. The Palestinian people have as much a right to a stable, peaceful home as the Israelis, notwithstanding their leadership's inclination to play all-or-nothing and end up with nothing.
    Problem is, the US isnt gonna stop taking sides in the Israeli vs Palestinian conflicts, because Israel is the only country in that region that does what the US says, perhaps Iran will follow suite though...there are too many strategic interests in the Middle East to let the Palestinians control any land(from the Western standpoint).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetshumody View Post
    I don't think any country has to defend itself against negative opinions through utilizing 'force of arms'. Using physical violence against other people's opinions is a kind of authoritarianism that is unwarranted... Opinions aren't in themselves violent, only when it amounts to actual conspiracy to plan particular deeds of aggression is the option of force warranted;- and no country broadcasts their plans of invasion in their media- which is by it's very nature a reporting of perception and not fact;
    Any nation can and should defend itself against nations who put intolerant and belligerent national opinions into practice, as Israel's neighbors have repeatedly done. I trust Israel has better sources for what potential adversaries are planning than the morning newspapers. Israel understands the hostility some neighboring nations harbor toward it, as well as the indifference or complicity of other nations in the world. This has led them to maintain a strong defense capability, so they are ready when those opinions become action and they must defend themselves with limited outside support.

    Quote Originally Posted by Typh0n View Post
    Problem is, the US isnt gonna stop taking sides in the Israeli vs Palestinian conflicts, because Israel is the only country in that region that does what the US says, perhaps Iran will follow suite though...there are too many strategic interests in the Middle East to let the Palestinians control any land(from the Western standpoint).
    Relations with Iran are related to the Israeil-Palestinian conflict, but not the same issue. The U.S. has long been an opponent of terrorism, which for decades made it appear we were siding against the Palestinians since they relied on terrorism to try to promote what might have been a legitimate agenda. The divisions are not as clear-cut now, and the U.S. has sometimes been sluggish in recalibrating its position, to remain as neutral as possible toward both sides. To the extent that one side more than the other uses tactics like terrorism, however, it may not make sense to be completely neutral.
    I've been called a criminal, a terrorist, and a threat to the known universe. But everything you were told is a lie. The truth is, they've taken our freedom, our home, and our future. The time has come for all humanity to take a stand...

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    They could have a leading Rabbi walk up to obama and slit his throat and that wouldn't matter to me. If a kid wants to destroy his own toy he can do it. The J-banks decide who is president and the bankers are most certainly kosher. Saw this floating around today: http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-ci...s-2450484.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawbawbowba View Post
    They could have a leading Rabbi walk up to obama and slit his throat and that wouldn't matter to me. If a kid wants to destroy his own toy he can do it. The J-banks decide who is president and the bankers are most certainly kosher. Saw this floating around today: http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-ci...s-2450484.html
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