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    Default Orson Scott Card (Ender's Game) On Homosexuality

    http://www.nauvoo.com/library/card-hypocrites.html

    "I learned that being homosexual does not destroy a person's talent or deny those aspects of their character that I had already come to love and admire. I did learn that for most of them their highest allegiance was to their membership in the community that gave them access to sex."
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    yeah, he's kindof an asshole. In case that was news to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    yeah, he's kindof an asshole. In case that was news to anyone.
    Why is he kindof an asshole? Because he learned that their highest allegiance was to the community that provided sex? (for some of them.)
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    No, because he invests a lot of time and money into promoting hatred towards gay people (not specific to this article).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    No, because he invests a lot of time and money into promoting hatred towards gay people (not specific to this article).
    Cite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    Got a SPECIFIC cite?
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    Sure - look at the first google result, his wikipedia article. It has lots of specific citations.

    Want a citation for the existence of the sun next?
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    In a 1990 essay for Sunstone magazine, he wrote that the laws prohibiting homosexual behavior should "remain on the books, not to be indiscriminately enforced against anyone who happens to be caught violating them, but to be used when necessary to send a clear message that those who flagrantly violate society's regulation of sexual behavior cannot be permitted to remain as acceptable, equal citizens within that society." In May 2013, Card made a statement saying that he no longer advocates this
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    I'm sure his statement had nothing to do with the widespread boycotts of his work in early 2013, or the Supreme court rulings on same-sex marriage in May 2013. He may have admitted defeat in that fight (at least publicly), but he was still on the asshole side of the war. Perhaps you are right and he has suddenly become enlightened in the last few months. Let's all hope for that.

    I do like his books, though.
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