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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Male on female domestic abuse is no more common than the converse. Men are just stronger and leave more obvious marks. They are also far less likely to report domestic abuse.

    I've never heard someone try to explain a man's violent behavior being the result of his wife abusing him. I don't expect to hear it in my lifetime.

    Should I expect to see you protesting for longer prison sentences for women any time soon?
    Oh. So do you also deny the Halocaust?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Oh. So do you also deny the Halocaust?
    You've got this backwards. I didn't say women haven't been abused. I said they're also abusers. If anyone is denying anything, it's you denying that women also abuse men.

    Also, LOL @ comparing any of this to the Holocaust. Did you get that from your women's studies course?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Male on female domestic abuse is no more common than the converse.
    Is this true?
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    Oh no, I had to put you back on ignore. I never denied women can be abusers, but you made the completely groundless statement that women beat men as much as the opposite, and that is statistically false. Extremely false, not just a little bit.

    I don't argue with people who live in entirely fabricated realities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kquirk View Post
    Is this true?
    According to these American sources, a very shaky yes. http://dvrc-or.org/domestic/violence/resources/C61/
    http://www.americanbar.org/groups/do...tatistics.html

    Women tend to use psychological and emotional abuse to control their husbands while men tend to engage more in physical abuse. Also men are more likely to underreport because of social norms.

    But to stick to the thread topic, it would be interesting to see statistics on child abuse between male and female perpetrators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    According to these American sources, a very shaky yes. http://dvrc-or.org/domestic/violence/resources/C61/
    http://www.americanbar.org/groups/do...tatistics.html

    Women tend to use psychological and emotional abuse to control their husbands while men tend to engage more in physical abuse. Also men are more likely to underreport because of social norms.

    But to stick to the thread topic, it would be interesting to see statistics on child abuse between male and female perpetrators.
    There's also this Harvard study from 2006. This study actually concludes that women engage in domestic violence more often than men. I'm not convinced that's entirely accurate, but I'm comfortable saying it's roughly equal. What it boils down to is this. If you look at reported crime statistics, very few women commit domestic violence because men rarely ever report it and the police sometimes arrest the man when they do. Here is an example of symmetrical violence where only the male is arrested. That goes into the crime statistics as male-on-female domestic violence even though it was symmetrical. Those are the studies feminists love. Studies that conclude domestic violence is symmetrical are based on self-reporting (women admit to abusing a partner even though they were never arrested). Feminists don't like those studies because they give the wrong answer.

    It shouldn't surprise people that domestic violence is pretty much symmetrical, but people have been told for decades that domestic violence is all about brutish men beating their helpless wives. If you're told something enough, you eventually start believe it regardless of its truthfulness.
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