@Il Morto Che Parla seems reluctant to pursue this discussion, but perhaps other members have relevant observations. Il Morto contrasted masculine and feminine behavior this way:
Even among traditional views/stereotypes, it seems there is more variety than this.In my experience, it's more usual for the woman to want to "shine", and for the man to set the "frame". Think of a rock and a flower.
My contention is this: many men today try, unknowingly, to take on what is actually the "feminine" role, trying to perform and impress, thinking it is what they have to do, but it goes against their own essence, therefore they repel the very "feminine" which they wish to attract.
Do any of you know men who want to shine, who thrive in the limelight, who like to perform and impress, whether as entertainers, athletes, businessmen, or politicians? Does this make them less "masculine"?
Conversely, do you know women who are very quiet and modest, keeping mostly to themselves? Or even women who think they should keep the focus on the man in a conversation or dating encounter, to stroke his ego and make him feel special? Does this make them less feminine?